Lack of time

[haohmaru]

Boring? I can see how people wouldn't like it for its setup, combat, item and creation systems, or building characters to send them off design, but boring? That just puzzles me.

Hey, I tried like hell to get into the game after hearing so much about it. I thought it was an absolute snoozefest. Different strokes, I guess.

[g0zen]

Chrono Cross was great, except for the stupid one-sentence endings for my party members. That shit was infuriating.

[MechDeus]

1. Some characters have exactly the same attributes and felt like the play exactly the same. Barely any interaction either.

2. I thought the characters didn't have much depth to them and that the depth was spread too thinly between te characters. I am going to retry this game so I could see what Roufuss was talking about.

So if I'm reading you right: Including extras that don't affect the story are bad and not including extras makes a game better? You confound me.

[...] and most people I've met are of the opinion that CC's story wrecks what was set up in Chrono Trigger.

And what exactly did CT set up? CC ties up a loose end from CT which is part of an almost totally unrelated journey. The only thing it "wrecked" regarding CT was people who wanted a direct CT2. God forbid a world should actually have some depth to it, there are other people besides Crono walking around.

Hey, I tried like hell to get into the game after hearing so much about it. I thought it was an absolute snoozefest. Different strokes, I guess.

You're wierd. [/little kid]

[sleeve]

I would argue the merits of CC here, but honestly if I have to participate in another "merits of CC" debate on a message board I'm going to barf.

CC is the best console RPG ever made. If you don't agree you have shitty taste in RPGs.

Hell I might as well put that in my sig. Save myself the trouble in the future.

[Diff-chan]

I would argue the merits of CC here, but honestly if I have to participate in another "merits of CC" debate on a message board I'm going to barf.

CC is the best console RPG ever made. If you don't agree you have shitty taste in RPGs.

Hell I might as well put that in my sig. Save myself the trouble in the future.

I believe this news. If you dont agree with sleeve or I, then you just dont get it.

Fuck the haters.

[Compass]

Grandia on the PS and Grandia on the Saturn are like night and day, the Saturn rev is so much better in so many ways (loading times, GRAPHICS, etc.). I wouldn't bother with the PS version of Grandia. Sell it. Then use that money and hunt down a Saturn version, and play it. It was one of my fave RPGs on the Saturn back in the day. Loved it from start to finish.

Grandia 2 (DC, never played the PS2 rev but I've heard the graphics are awful in comparison, it's glitchy as hell, and is prone to freezing/crashing) was such a boring game, I was beyond disappointed. I tried so hard to like that game, and so hard to finish it, but I gave up about halfway through. It was just too boring and stupid, despite the nice battle system and snazzy graphics.

i agree 100% with every word, my shoegazer-enjoying friend. except i never finished saturn grandia (save file got erased at 45 hours)... and i did finish the ever-bland grandia 2 on DC.

[Shadow Not Shade]

And what exactly did CT set up? CC ties up a loose end from CT which is part of an almost totally unrelated journey. The only thing it "wrecked" regarding CT was people who wanted a direct CT2.

Heh... don't look at me, I barely even remember what the hell CC was about. I'm just saying, it's a common complaint I've heard.

[MechDeus]

Heh... don't look at me, I barely even remember what the hell CC was about. I'm just saying, it's a common complaint I've heard.

Ah, okay. By and large it seems to be that if someone didn't like CC it's because they wanted a CT2 with Crono, Marle, Lucca, and Robo once again travelling. It's not that that can't be great but it blinded a lot of people, so when they didn't get a traditional sequel they felt robbed because they were unwilling to look at anything in the Chrono world from a different point of view. Shame really, because that very notion is one of the things that made CC such a great sequel.

[Shadow Not Shade]

I would argue the merits of CC here, but honestly if I have to participate in another "merits of CC" debate on a message board I'm going to barf.

CC is the best console RPG ever made. If you don't agree you have shitty taste in RPGs.

If there are so many arguments about the merits of CC, how is it the best console RPG ever?

CC was pretty good, but I'd hesitate to say it's the best console RPG. Chrono Trigger at least matches it in terms of overall quality, if not exceeds; FF6 and FF7 are pretty big contenders, and then there are the DQ games... and so on, and so forth.

[Damian79]

So if I'm reading you right: Including extras that don't affect the story are bad and not including extras makes a game better? You confound me.

No I am saying that if they took the effort of all those extras, out them into 11 or so characters instead of 40, I would have liked it more. What I am saying is that the story of each character was spread too thin because of the effort focusing on 40 or so characters.

Does that make sense?