Yeah, I've been pwned.
I state fact and you insult me.
Teh clever is you!
Sausage-in-training
Fact remains even with half not working(somehow I doubt they let their nukes rot but hey)they can fuck the world up a few dozen times over.Originally Posted by Gohron
I state fact, you state one sided propaganda, dehumanising propaganda at that.
As if innocent Palestinian civilians have no rights becouse its neighbours and Israel decided to play a sick game of chess with them.
Say Ahhh
You're killing me here, Almaci. Please. Let's keep this as a debate and not let it turn into just another bickering bitch fit.
Time for a change
I said I was done but...
Where did I say they had no rights?
You can't honestly refute what I said so it's PROPAGANDA!
What I stated was historical fact, plain and simple. I'm not saying they have no rights. I'm not saying that what happened wasn't tragic. I'm saying that Israel didn't make these people refugees, plain and simple. The Arab nations did.
Are you going to seriously discuss this like an adult or are you going to dismiss everything anyone who doesn't think like you says and keep with the insults?
Nordic Warrior
I don't completly dismiss them but I do not see them as a threat to much of anybody with their current leadership. That's not to say that situation could change extremely quickly but there's a problem. Nuclear weapons can't be fired at the drop of a hat, they have to be prepared and can only stay fueled for 10 hours, after that they would have to be prepared once again. If Russia ever was planning a launch against a firstworld power (or against their communist super-power neighbor) the situation could probably be dealt with before it fully escalted. Nuclear weapons are a tricky thing to deal with and they're still fully capable of wiping all the major Chinese and US cities off the map but while our countries would be disabled and broken theirs would probably cease to exist.
Sausage-in-training
OK ill bite.
You want to tell me that the people INSIDE Gaza and the West Bank(not the pre 48 refugees) that have lived there for generations and are driven violently from their properties, have their lands seized, are not allowed to use the roads inside what is considered their own land/region(even by Israel)who are humiliated every step they take, who have their crops destroyed, houses seized and shot at by settlers, that these people are NOT Israels victims?
They are victims, perhaps.
Israel's? Sure. Only Israel's? Nope.
In every war there are civillian victims. These people are unfortunately in the middle of decades of hostilities.
That's not my point. I agree with you on this. What I'm trying to point out is that you cannot blame this solely on Israel. It wasn't Israel that displaced these people in the first place. The same countries that are crying about this now are the same ones responsible for it to begin with.
Sausage-in-training
Yes only Israelīs.
They live in what can effectively be described as concentration camps with Israel deciding what roads they can use, if they can visit relatives, when they can leave their houses etcetera etcetera.
Check up on the conditions these people live in before making anymore ignorant statements.
Again with the insults.
Jeez, how do you honestly expect anyone to take you seriously?
Moreover, you're not even fucking reading my posts.
You said I had said they had no rights. I did not.
Now you're going off on a tangent about something that has nothing to do with what I'm saying.
I don't give a shit about how they're treated now. THAT'S NOT MY POINT.
I'm talking causes and you're going on about consequences.
You know what? Forget it. I should have quit while I was ahead. You are incapable of holding a logical, civilized, and coherent discussion. You read only what you want, put words in other people's mouths, and insult them.
No wonder no one wants to talk to you.
Sausage-in-training
No these things are the CAUSE of the CONSEQUENCES.
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