"Massacre Draws Self-Criticism in Muslim Press"

[Master of 7s]

The Russian military is full of some crazy mofos.

[Almaci]

This is the NY Times. The article is about an outpouring of Muslim self-criticism by journalists (or "race traitors" as Almaci would say) reacting to the Chechnyan massacre. Remember, they're not all bastards.

Listen you asswipe, I take great offense at this.
Your little digs have gone far enough and unlike you I have repeatedly and constantly DENOUNCED ALL ACTS OF TERRORISM no matter who commited them.
You have learned well from your neocon masters, you brainwashed stupid piece of shit.

[epmode]

lol.

[Diff-chan]

"I mean, having sex with 14 year old girls is wrong and dirty, but theyre just so hot and the clothes they wear, theyre just asking for it."

So if I were to say that, where would I stand on the issue?

Here's what I often read from Almaci: something along the lines of "terrorism is evil, but the people committing the acts are driven to it by oppression". This denouncement + justification is something I see very often in the Muslim world, and it ultimately adds up to a worthless statement.

[Almaci]

VERY good article. Coming from the Times, too... woah! I just saw Babe fly by my window!
I think it's great that Muslims who respect life are finally saying something loudly. My dad always goes on about how Islam's base is to "convert by the sword" and how we can't trust anybody because of that. It's nice to see something down on paper that may make him rethink his views.

This, I find VERY interesting. Kinda puts things into perspective, honestly.

Convert by the sword my ass, I have been thought to respect others regardless of religion.
As has the vast majority of Muslim people, something you guys would know if you actually read my posts instead of the distortions and insinuations guys like Stone here make of me and my vieuws.

It's about damn time that the people who actually follow the beliefs of the Muslim religion are beginning to call out the hypocritical psychopaths who use their religion as justification for as much murder as they can get away with and a fair chunk they can't. I hate to say it but up until these people start making noise (like, for example, now) and follow through making noise then their religion is, to the outside world, exactly what it seems to be- a safe-harbor for murdering bastards.

I do have to wonder why it takes several years of hundreds dead in each of multiple terrorist acts to get these people to talk, though.

James

Its difficult to make noise when the guys next to you are using megaphones to drown out your voice.

Why do you hate to say it? Its the absolute truth. If horrible, subhuman terrorist acts are met with silence from the Muslim press, the Muslim religious leaders, the Muslim leaders, then of course people will assume that the religion as a whole supports these things (especially when Islam is the official religion and basis for laws in the country).

We just need more of this - a lot more. And stuff like this needs to be more widely condemned by the Muslim world at large.

Everyone seems to be forgetting the outrage that appeared in all Muslim nations after 9/11.
Ironically Iran was one of the biggest supports for the US against the Taliban early on only to have it squashed by Bush when he called em part of 3 rogue terrorist nations.

Do I have to remind you that this kind of shit is unnecessary?

Well apparently you do becouse despite saying I value ALL human life regardless of race, religion, sex or whatever and despite saying I denounce ALL terrorist acts no matter who commits them and despite stating my positions with regards to violence and the loss of innocent life dozens of times on this board Stone just doesnt get it.

Well I'm happy that an opposing Muslim view is being expressed in the Islamic world, that not all Muslims are savages. Hopefully more people will speak out against these kinds of horrible acts, it's the only real way to stop terrorism. If they have no support then they can't claim to be acting in the interests of Allah.

They cant do that anyway, to kill an innocent is akin to killing mankind.

It's about damn time!!!!!!

Anybody with even a quarter of a brain has always known that Muslims aren't the murderous, savage assholes that this extremely small minority of worthless maggots in Iraq and other parts of the world, are presenting them to be.

Christianity has always had it's share of psychopaths, lunatics, and self-aborbed nut-jobs who claim to be followers of Christ. But no one ever associates these fools with Christianity because we Christians instantly, vocally, and publically disown, disapprove, and denounce them and their actions.

Muslims need to speak out and LOUDLY if they want take back their religion from these useless terrorist maggots.

We do, I did here quite often up until I left early this year.
Problem is no one is listening and instead chooses to take Stone and Yoshi´s character assasinations as fact instead of actually reading what I say.
Its the same in the media.

i guess any thing you see in the paper you think its true, if you do your a TARD. islam is a violent religon and the muslums that arnt violint are far and few between.

Excuse me?

"I mean, having sex with 14 year old girls is wrong and dirty, but theyre just so hot and the clothes they wear, theyre just asking for it."

So if I were to say that, where would I stand on the issue?

Here's what I often read from Almaci: something along the lines of "terrorism is evil, but the people committing the acts are driven to it by oppression". This denouncement + justification is something I see very often in the Muslim world, and it ultimately adds up to a worthless statement.

Whats the difference between Americans who say yeah we supported Saddam but he was the lesser of two evils or yeah we supported Bin Ladin but that was becouse he was fighting them commies?

I denounce the violent acts but also say what drives some people to that point, why they become so crazy.

Its called cause and effect and you cant fight terrorism unless you know whats causing it.
Just going after them terrorists solves nothing becouse new ones will continue to be created until the things that creates them have been stopped.

[Joust Williams]

"I denounce the violent acts but also say what drives some people to that point, why they become so crazy.

Its called cause and effect and you cant fight terrorism unless you know whats causing it."

I find it hard to believe that you would know, while at the same time, the people actually doing something don't. No offense.

[Almaci]

We know the causes for half the heart disease out there, we know smoking causes cancer, drinking causes brain damage and liver disease yet we choose to fight the symptoms once those show themselves.

How is this different?

[StriderKyo]

You have learned well from your neocon masters, you brainwashed stupid piece of shit.

Quit it. Yeah it was a cheap shot, but you can sort this out without going all Springer on him.

[Almaci]

Quit it. Yeah it was a cheap shot, but you can sort this out without going all Springer on him.

As if I havent tried that a dozen times before when he was twisting what I had said or flat out made stuff up.

[Joust Williams]

"We know the causes for half the heart disease out there, we know smoking causes cancer, drinking causes brain damage and liver disease yet we choose to fight the symptoms once those show themselves"

Huh? First of all, you're admitting that the people actually doing something about terrorism know the causes by that analogy, and secondly, we most certainly try to stop those before they happen.