Def Jam 2: Fight for NY

[Xero_Kaiser]

I can't wait to hear the reasoning behind this one...

[MarkRyan]

I can't wait to hear the reasoning behind this one...

Um, because the controls are horrible? Would you like more adjectives such as "sluggish," "non-responsive," and "horrifically under-developed"? Just about every fight I'm in will have me pummeling my opponent until he's about dead, and then having some shitty control issues turn the tide and make the fight last two or three times longer than it should have.

The control issues are enough of an annoyance in one-on-one matches, but are made at least ten times worse in matches with four fighters. Targetting is a terrible affair. You should just be able to point at what you want to attack, not have to press the mis-placed black button to hopefully cycle to the target--and if all your opponents are in the same general direction (i.e. not on distinctly different sides from you), it's just about impossible to tell who you're targetting until you hit them. Other bodies get it the way of who you're fighting, including bodies that are already KOed.

There are many other nuances to make the controls of the game a disappointingly shitty part of the game.

[Master]

*waits for people to call this game "deep"*

[dave is ok]

not have to press the mis-placed black button to hopefully cycle to the target-

I've never played the game, but I'm assuming you're talking about the 'S' controller?

[MarkRyan]

I've never played the game, but I'm assuming you're talking about the 'S' controller?

Yes sir.

[dave is ok]

Yes sir.

The big controllers are where it's at.

[Xero_Kaiser]

Um, because the controls are horrible? Would you like more adjectives such as "sluggish," "non-responsive," and "horrifically under-developed"?

how are they non-responsive when the characters immediately respond to your button inputs?

Just about every fight I'm in will have me pummeling my opponent until he's about dead, and then having some shitty control issues turn the tide and make the fight last two or three times longer than it should have.

I'm having a hard time believing that the controls magically turn bad whenever you're about to win. pressing L+Y to K.O. someone is as complicated as it ever gets. it's not a control issue if pressing two buttons at once confuses you

You should just be able to point at what you want to attack, not have to press the mis-placed black button to hopefully cycle to the target

the black button's like......half an inch away from the other buttons. it's not hard to find

and if all your opponents are in the same general direction (i.e. not on distinctly different sides from you), it's just about impossible to tell who you're targetting until you hit them.

true enough

Other bodies get it the way of who you're fighting, including bodies that are already KOed.

uhhh...no shit? if there's something in between two people, of course it's gonna get in the way.

[MarkRyan]

I suppose you're right, the controls are perfect. Silly me. You "just push the buttons"? How could I have been so dumb.

I suppose next you'll tell me that I just suck at the game, and that's the obvious reason why I dislike it.

[MechDeus]

the black button's like......half an inch away from the other buttons. it's not hard to find

It's reccessed and can be hard to press, especially if you need it right away. Both it and the white one need to be regular buttons.

[Xero_Kaiser]

I suppose you're right, the controls are perfect. Silly me.

sure as hell don't seem sluggish to me

You "just push the buttons"?

you say shitty control issues come up at the last minute and fuck you up. I don't see it. winning really is as simple as pressing the punch or grapple button, so what control issues are stopping you from winning?

I suppose next you'll tell me that I just suck at the game, and that's the obvious reason why I dislike it.

what the hell are you babbling about?