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  • Edwards

    21 60.00%
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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Yoshi
    When did MSNBC start posting those?
    My sarcasm meter isn't working, but on the off-case you were actually serious, here it is.

  2. Today's achewood sums up the debate pretty well.

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  3. The New York Times has a good article on how both sides have strecthed the truth (surprise, surprise) during the debate.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/06/po...gn/06fact.html
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  4. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by SonofdonCD
    My sarcasm meter isn't working, but on the off-case you were actually serious, here it is.
    I meant facts. MSNBC tends to avoid those and rather stick to their opinions.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Yoshi
    I meant facts. MSNBC tends to avoid those and rather stick to their opinions.
    Wel, unless you can prove that these are in fact opinion and not facts, I'll take their word for it.

    I'm not daring you, BTW, cause if you do have other facts that are truthful that contradict the MSNBC link I gave, by all means place it here.

    It's just that blanket statements like yours don't make me automatically believe them. Actually they tend to have the exact opposite effect.

  6. Quote Originally Posted by RedCoKid
    Also, that moderator was terrible! On more than one occassion, she was distracted enough to forget who's turn it was to speak.
    She probably fell asleep too....?
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by diffusionx
    No shit. I realize that. Im simply saying that as much as Kerry tries to portray himself as for the working man, a hunter with his own guns, etc., hes just as upper-crust as Bush and thanks to his marriage he's far more wealthy.
    Bush strikes me as someone who would be a complete failure in life if not for his (frequently employed) name and hook-ups, though.

  8. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by SonofdonCD
    Wel, unless you can prove that these are in fact opinion and not facts, I'll take their word for it.
    Just read it. First of all, the story is a repost from the Moscow, er, Washington Post. The second paragraph totally fails to make its point. They are claiming that Cheney misled by saying that the administration never said that Iraq was responsible for 9/11. The story says that he "skated the issue". The truth is that they never did say it. Even within the story itself they never show any proof that it was said, only that Cheney had said that Atta had met with Iraqi officials. The whole point is bullshit and typical of the Washington Post. And it's typical of MSNBC to run stories from a shit source like that.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Yoshi
    Just read it. First of all, the story is a repost from the Moscow, er, Washington Post. The second paragraph totally fails to make its point. They are claiming that Cheney misled by saying that the administration never said that Iraq was responsible for 9/11. The story says that he "skated the issue". The truth is that they never did say it. Even within the story itself they never show any proof that it was said, only that Cheney had said that Atta had met with Iraqi officials. The whole point is bullshit and typical of the Washington Post. And it's typical of MSNBC to run stories from a shit source like that.
    Cheney himself did say that Saddam Hussien was involved in the attacks, on Meet the Press, the Daily Show played the clip months ago, and I saw it again yesterday. I forget the quote verbatim, but it was like 'Saddam Hussien was working with Al Qaeda'

  10. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by dave is ok
    Cheney himself did say that Saddam Hussien was involved in the attacks, on Meet the Press, the Daily Show played the clip months ago, and I saw it again yesterday. I forget the quote verbatim, but it was like 'Saddam Hussien was working with Al Qaeda'
    Find that quote, because not even Edwards or the Washington Post could.

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