Star Wars Episode III official thread

[Cowutopia]

If you've read any of the books, you'd have been prepared for yoda's little advice. That's why the Jedi life a monastic life, so they can be as selfless as they need to be. It's not an ideal life, being a Jedi. You probably wouldn't want to be one.

Look what happened to Anakin. he loved someone, cared for her, and let that love blind him. Like the love for his mother. It's too emotional to keep you in control. It makes sense and it's been Star Wars canon for a while.

One little scene is when Yoda escapes and falls out a tube to meet Bail in his cruiser, a very nice visual homage to Luke escaping through the tunnel tot he Millenium Falcom in ESB.

More fanservice. Like the inside of the blockade runner shot and bridge of the star destroyer shot.

I guess I should just stop looking at this thread. Sorry.

[Dolemite]

In the book Qui Gon appears to Yoda and tells him about the disappearing trick. He also tells Yoda that the Sith have adapted and evolved and have exploited the Jedis' monastic social isolation and rediculously stagnant ways. This is some nice dialogue in the book because it is good to see Qui Gon basically tell Yoda "See? If there were more Jedi like me who didn't fear a proactive stance and who weren't afraid of change, some of this might not have happened. NOW we have to use this disappearing technique in order to stay alive and train people." It is really aggravating this was not filmed (why couldn;t he have filmed that during the Phantom Menace?). It's too bad Lucas apparently didn't want/couldn't get Liam Neeson to reprise his role as Qui Gon in the movie. Because when Yoda tells Obi Wan about this in one flat line it just kind of comes off as "Oh and hey, guess what? Qui Gon is back and he knows how to retain your identity in the Force."

That's great. That so totally should have been in the movie.

[1CCOSA]

Actually, it's a long time ago.Welcome to 90% of the action movies you've been watching your whole life.Vader returned balance to the force, the light side was no longer dominate and both sides ended up pretty much on par with each other. I'm reminded of Jolee Bindo's story of the Jedi who was going to do great things one day.http://dying.about.com/cs/religiousv...istBeliefs.htmOr, SINCE YOU'RE ALREADY USING THE SPOILER TAGS, you could just change those to "spoiler" from "spoilers" and it the board would hide it for you.

[edit] Nevermind, you figured it out.

Yeah, I have used spoiler tags before, but i got lazy this time and copied the word "SPOILERS" and then tried to wrap it in brackets plurally which of course didn't work. ha

That's great. That so totally should have been in the movie.

I agree, and it really shows how wise Qui Gon was and that he was way more balanced than the council. He followed the rules as best he could but he was open to new ideas (*within reason,* unlike Anakin who uses selfish reasons to adopt new ideas) and loved doing what he did as being a Jedi.

Also, Qui Gon's dialogue in the book further reinfoces the fact that the Jedi should have allowed marriage and families. Instead, they are so rigid they view marriage and families as 100% risk. Lucas has said several times in interviews that (not verbatim but very close) "Luke suceeds because he has a strong sense of family, and family is what brings Vader back." Of course, Anakin has a strong sense of family too, but since the Jedi have become so detached from people (especially Mace IMHO) he is in a position where Palpatine can warp his sense of family and draw it out to full on obession and insanity.

It's just my viewpoint, but the Jedi who are so sensitive to the element of fear actually have a somewhat blatant form of fear in their order: fear of family and fear of love. You can care about people but you can't love them because "love leads to fear of loss"? That line of reasoning destroys them. Whattaya think sirs?

Oh yes, and good on Luke for marrying Mara Jade (and yeah, that should be canon, Lucas actually reads the comics and really likes them, he has even taken a few tid bits from them like Jango's wrist bladefor one, there are some others I am not aware of because there are a lot of them i haven't read yet. Some of the expanded universe stuff is really goofy and laughable though of course)

[Mzo]

Some of the expanded universe stuff is really goofy and laughable though of course)

KEVIN.
J.
ANDERSON.

GAAAAARGH!

[Cowutopia]

Ugh, yes. KJA. Ugh.

[EvilMog]

WOW! Dylan, I feel exactly the way you do about all the points you brought up.



and about Grievous and his cough... Is it possible they included that from him getting his chest crushed in by Mace Windu in the Clone Wars cartoon? If so thats damn cool.

[1CCOSA]

WOW! Dylan, I feel exactly the way you do about all the points you brought up.



and about Grievous and his cough... Is it possible they included that from him getting his chest crushed in by Mace Windu in the Clone Wars cartoon? If so thats damn cool.

Yeah, I actually speculated on that in the clone wars thread that when Mace crushes his chest plate it causes him to hunch down. Still though, look at the concept paintings for him, he looks so much more scary and menacing.

I still liked him though, slightly better than Jango I will add. Lucas said in Empire magazine, "He's a different kind of villian. He's really sly and slimy." He does come off nice 'n slimy in a fun comic book cheese way. Still liked him better in the animated shorts though. Also, Matthew Wood did a nice job giving him a more unique voice but it would have been a lot more interesting to have heard John Dimaggio be his voice actor in the film.

[Shooting Love]

...How fast did those Imperial Starfleet Command suits get pressed and why weren't they clones?

Ha!, I was wondering the same thing. There was like a semingly one day jump between Vader's mechinization, and him standing amongst the Empire-uniformed conscripted men.

[g0zen]

and about Grievous and his cough... Is it possible they included that from him getting his chest crushed in by Mace Windu in the Clone Wars cartoon? If so thats damn cool.

Yeah, that's the reason he's not such a badass. Though I think it just makes things easier since trying to choreograph a really good prolonged fight with a four-armed CGI character and an actor would be a huge pain. However, it does bring up one interesting point, are the Clone Wars catroons canon?

Ha!, I was wondering the same thing. There was like a semingly one day jump between Vader's mechinization, and him standing amongst the Empire-uniformed conscripted men.

You got to be thinking though that Palpatine has been planning this for a long time. Getting the right people behind him to start the Empire (Vader, Tarkin, etc), that's why I think he had TIEs and Imperial Naval heirarchy ready.

[Drinky Milk]

I wasn't truly excited about the new movie until I was waiting in line with the 500 other rabid fans that came for the midnight showing (or 'showings' rather).

All in all, this is the first SW in like... 5 years that I walked away feeling satisfied. I fell asleep for a few minutes, but I blame the waiting in line part. Overall, I liked it.

Mind you I hated the other two movies.