Lost

[1CCOSA]

I re-watched SE02E01. When Locke has to input the code, the countdown beeper starts at 29:39 into the episode (least that's what it says on the one I have on my PC) and is shown at 30:14 reading 002:38. So, you've got 35 seconds + 2:38 for 003:13 when it starts, which doesn't seem important in any way.

When it is reset, though, it changes to 108:00, which is:
4 + 8 + 15 + 16 + 23 + 42 and the same number on the Mural that Jack sees.

The weird thing is that when the counter is reset, it doesn't start counting down in the first 3 seconds, nor is there any sound (clicks, not beeps), that is is. Unclear if it's on a 108 minute countdown, which would severely fuck up any normal person (less the shot does something to counteract sleep deprivation) or some unknown amount of time passes before it begins to count down from 108.

Also, to anyone that posts things from episode previews, please spoiler tag them. Some people, myself namely, don't watch those for a specific reason.

Very interesting, thanks. Also, you gotta hand it to Abrams and his writers for being able to keep the number thread so consistent (so far) everywhere it is used.

Anyways, can't wait for this week's ep. We'll finally get a good look at the Others and where they live. And Michelle Rodriguez as Ana Lucia = hotness. I hope she and jack hit it off just to see little miss fugitive annoyed. heh heh

[mollipen]

I'm not 100% sure that those people ARE the Others, though. I know we're supposed to think that they are, and that's what makes me think that they aren't. *heh*

[MVS]

MAIN PLOT THEORY:
"The Others" aren't the survivors of the ass-end of 815 but are the majority of whatever group of scientists Rousseau and Desmond were part of, but infected with whatever the wacky supervirus is they had quarantined on the island.

The problem is that she does say they are dead. In the repeating loop of the transmission it clearly states "they are dead". When she actually speaks of them much later, she says 'when they were gone', which doesn't quite contradict 'dead'.

It's been theorized that the dinosaur type monster was put into place before the show got popular, where relying on dinosaurs would make the show 'cheesy' and weaker. It's possible the 'black cloud' could take that form, or it could split into two halves (seemingly not solid). I dunno. My mind is in the 'One monster, many forms' camp.

I watched the first 2 episodes of SE01 again and there are a few things.

The "Monster" shows up 3 times in the course of 16 hours, all 3 of those are post the introduction of the 'nano' thing flying by the engine when it's destroyed. When it takes the pilot, right at the 16 hour mark, it is dark enough to cast a serious shadow on the airplane. It doesn't seem like one entity, rather 2 seperate ones.

Also, someone is reminded of the sound it makes.

There is some dialogue in the background that goes like:
That noise sounds familiar, but I can't place it.
Where are you from?
The Bronx.

I think the above lends itself to a solid, mechanical device/entity.

[1CCOSA]

I'm not 100% sure that those people ARE the Others, though. I know we're supposed to think that they are, and that's what makes me think that they aren't. *heh*

So true, they could just be deranged alternate survivors.

Also, I wish I could find a screen cap of Homer wearing a little Adebisi hat in a Simpsons ep from last year.

[aren]

When Desmond asked, "Are you him?" to Locke, he was asking if Locke was the person to replace him. I know this has been talked about, but here is a theory that might back it up that involves Lenny being in the hatch in the past.

We all know Lenny knows the numbers. He's the one that got them stuck in Hurley's head. This leads me to believe that Lenny might have been in the hatch before Desmond. The reason he went crazy was because he entered in those numbers so much into the computer. Finally, when his replacement came, which would be Desmond, he left. When he went back to civilization, all he could think about were those numbers he entered in every 108 minutes. This lead him to become crazy. As for the idea of Hurley being in the mental institute and coincidently Lenny being at the same one and Hurley coincidently being on the plane that crashes on the very same island Lenny was at, I can't explain. However, it could be some sort of master plan that was planned out in advance to make Hurley be the replacement. Like maybe Lenny sent Hurley by using subliminal messages or something.

I know this isn't really a concrete theory, but it wouldn't hurt to throw it out there and maybe someone might add some ideas that might backup my theory.

[MVS]

When Desmond asked, "Are you him?" to Locke, he was asking if Locke was the person to replace him. I know this has been talked about, but here is a theory that might back it up that involves Lenny being in the hatch in the past.

We all know Lenny knows the numbers. He's the one that got them stuck in Hurley's head. This leads me to believe that Lenny might have been in the hatch before Desmond. The reason he went crazy was because he entered in those numbers so much into the computer. Finally, when his replacement came, which would be Desmond, he left. When he went back to civilization, all he could think about were those numbers he entered in every 108 minutes. This lead him to become crazy. As for the idea of Hurley being in the mental institute and coincidently Lenny being at the same one and Hurley coincidently being on the plane that crashes on the very same island Lenny was at, I can't explain. However, it could be some sort of master plan that was planned out in advance to make Hurley be the replacement. Like maybe Lenny sent Hurley by using subliminal messages or something.

I know this isn't really a concrete theory, but it wouldn't hurt to throw it out there and maybe someone might add some ideas that might backup my theory.

That's not how it goes, though.

Hurley meets Lenny in the Asylum.
Hurley goes back to ask where they came from, he says Sam Tombe.
Hurly goes to see Tombe, finds his wife, she say he killed himself, and he used to work at a listening post in the Pacific and heard the numbers. She indicates it was a boring job with nothing to do until one day the numbers came in.

So far as it goes, either Lenny and Sam work together at the post and hear the mysterious numbers one night (which rules out Lenny inputting them into anything) or Lenny hears them from Sam. I'm not sure which, but both rule out Lenny in the hatch.

[MVS]

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[Port]

So far as it goes, either Lenny and Sam work together at the post and hear the mysterious numbers one night (which rules out Lenny inputting them into anything) or Lenny hears them from Sam. I'm not sure which, but both rule out Lenny in the hatch.

Maybe the truth is Sam worked in the hatch? Maybe not, but I do like Chronicle's theory.

And I'm going to go as far to say that dharmaindustries.com is a fan site. The referrer URL is www.active24.com, your average ISP.

[aren]

That's not how it goes, though.

Hurley meets Lenny in the Asylum.
Hurley goes back to ask where they came from, he says Sam Tombe.
Hurly goes to see Tombe, finds his wife, she say he killed himself, and he used to work at a listening post in the Pacific and heard the numbers. She indicates it was a boring job with nothing to do until one day the numbers came in.

So far as it goes, either Lenny and Sam work together at the post and hear the mysterious numbers one night (which rules out Lenny inputting them into anything) or Lenny hears them from Sam. I'm not sure which, but both rule out Lenny in the hatch.

Maybe the truth is Sam worked in the hatch? Maybe not, but I do like Chronicle's theory.

Exactly. How do we know the "listening post" isn't the hatch? Maybe Sam was in the hatch as well. Remember the bunck beds? So maybe Desmond and someone else replaced the both of them. Now maybe Hurley, and oh, let's just say Locke are here to replace Desmond and that someone else that we don't know.

[soundwave]

Exactly. How do we know the "listening post" isn't the hatch? Maybe Sam was in the hatch as well. Remember the bunck beds? So maybe Desmond and someone else replaced the both of them. Now maybe Hurley, and oh, let's just say Locke are here to replace Desmond and that someone else that we don't know.

Don't forget that the island was broadcasting the numbers before Rousseau changed it to the distress signal. The definition of a listening post is as follows (http://www.bugsweep.com/glossary.html):

LISTENING POST
The site at which radio signals are received or wired microphone lines terminated for the purpose of monitoring and/or recording intercepted communications.

I am going with MVS in that we should take Hurley's episode at face value. Lenny and Sam worked at the listening post and they discovered the numbers from that. The Hatch itself looks very closed off from the rest of the world plus the fact that Lenny and Sam wouldn't be quarantined if it was a listening post.