The Peaks of the Genres for this Generation

[Beefy Hits]

Originally Posted by Beefy Hits
Racing
Smashing Drive

Haha, awesome.

But I hope you don't really mean it.

I sure did. It's my little way of protesting how much I hate racing games because they are so hard and boring. The only way they have a chance with me is if :
1.) They are simple, arcadey, and unrealistic (think smashing drive, or outrun 2, SF Rush)
2.) They have easy, realistic controls. I can drive a car w/o an accident, why not a race car? Granted, it's going like 40mph faster, but still.
3.) They don't take themselves too seriously.

The fighting genre sucks. I don't think their is one huge fighting game coming out untilk next year.
Um, what game would that be, that is bigger than VF4, both Soul Caliburs, Tekken Tag, SF3, and GGXX?

Ahhhh.. Guilty Gear Isuka, Samurai Shodown 5 Special, DOA Ultimate, or Capcom Fighting Evolution anyone?

[Cowutopia]

So wait, what genre would Rogue Squadron be?

RTS - Pikmin 2 is the game I had the most fun with. I'm tired of all the other genre entries, and I've been tired of them since starcraft. Rise of rome, Empire Earth, Rise of Nations, all that crap is bigger, but it's tired. I'd like to see a Dungeon Keeper sequel. Warcraft 3 was decent as well.

What about turn-based strat? Is that under RPG? I'd pick Advance Wars over Advance Wars II. Representing Nectaris hardcore. Or are we excluding GBA?

Action/Adventure - Way too tough to call. Metroid Prime which will probably stand up to Echoes, since when the first is so perfect the sequels rarely improve on the experience. (See: Castlevania, peaking at SotN, MegaMan, and 2d Metroid fusion/zero.) It satisfied my own twisted desires to be able to scan just about everything, and I would get angry with other players when they didn't. You get as much story as you want. Brilliant. Zelda, BGE, I could go on for days with great games in this category. Especially since you don't have FPS as a separate category, and there were so many strong entries here. Call of Duty being my favourite.

Platformer - A bunch of awesome ones on GBA, even though many are remakes/sequels. I haven't played too many current-gen console platformers, so I can't pick. When Maximo made me incredibly sad, I kind of stopped playing them. Nowhere near as fun as the old Ghosts 'N Goblins series I heard it was continuing/paying homage to. But the heart encrusted boxers did happily reappear. Mario Sunshine could not come close to capturing the magic that was Mario 64. So empty.

Roleplaying - Has to be Kotor. Blew me away. Told a great Star Wars story the way George Lucas can't anymore. Learning about the Wookie planet was fascinating, and the gameplay was outstanding if you could get used to it. I know a lot of people who didn't give it a chance because of the odd, dry play. I'm urging them to try again, I don't find it dry at all. FF let me down. Morrowind currently owns my life.

Sports - Winning Eleven Seven. Or maybe one of the good snowboard games, like Amped. I'm a fan of the hockey games, but they aren't the most fantastic. Links 2004 honorable mention.

Racing - Mario Kart really let me down with the crap multiplayer maps. Waverace was great, but not as good as the N64 game. With this category it's often the newest games that take all the glory, and right now that game is Burnout 3.

Then you have to consider best multiplayer experience on and offline, though Burnout 3 is so strong only because of its multiplayer, and shmups, which really don't fit any other category. Dunno what I'd pick in any of those though.
Edit: Fighting games are also their own category, I believe, with many significant entries this gen.

Edit Edit: Shit RTS is not a category. Sorry, I just came from the other Best Genre thread.

[Anthony]

Ahhhh.. Guilty Gear Isuka, Samurai Shodown 5 Special, DOA Ultimate, or Capcom Fighting Evolution anyone?

Having personally played a few of those titles, they really don't stand up terribly well, I guess CFJ is still in the air though.

[remnant]

All the great fighting games are sequels. capcom is not lets say interested in fighting games any longer. tecmo your last great hope is making half-ass fighting games(DOA:Ultimate) and building franchises on it. ( DOA: extreme beach Volleyball, Ninja Gaiden, DOA: Code Cronos) the only fighting game coming out soon that I think will be great is that new King Of Fighters game. But compared to other genres(even racing) it can't compete anymore. Fighting games are soon going to join the hall of lost genrs like point and click games.

The fighting system in Zelda is better than Beyond good and Evil and the puzzles are not that better than Zeldas( what is every one deal with sailing? Learn the Ballad of Gales I think it is called and you cut the time of sailing into 2 minutes. The sailing only long for 3 hours of the game) Ask yourself would these puzzles been so old if I did not play past zelda games. Some gamers are extremely critical of sequels.They expect the same feeling of awe every time they play the sequel. Some like me don't mind and see the game for how good it is. Others are pissed when they don't get the feeling and start attacking the game. I knew I will not feel the same pulling the master sword out of the pedestal in WW that in OoT or link to the past but I didn't hold it against the game.

[Brand X]

All the great fighting games are sequels. capcom is not lets say interested in fighting games any longer. tecmo your last great hope is making half-ass fighting games(DOA:Ultimate) and building franchises on it. ( DOA: extreme beach Volleyball, Ninja Gaiden, DOA: Code Cronos) the only fighting game coming out soon that I think will be great is that new King Of Fighters game. But compared to other genres(even racing) it can't compete anymore.

Whoa, Capcom is still in the fighting game buisness, Street Fighter Collection and Capcom Fighting Jam have both just come out.

And if you're referring to the new 3d KOF, then

Fighting games are soon going to join the hall of lost genrs like point and click games.

Just like Comedy is a genre for games?

[Diff-chan]

RTS - Pikmin 2 is the game I had the most fun with. I'm tired of all the other genre entries, and I've been tired of them since starcraft. Rise of rome, Empire Earth, Rise of Nations, all that crap is bigger, but it's tired. I'd like to see a Dungeon Keeper sequel. Warcraft 3 was decent as well.

Dude, youre an idiot. Did you even try Rise of Nations? It wasnt like Empire Earth or really any other RTS game. It was like real-time Civilization II, and the endgame battles are the 2nd most intense shit around. If you dont want to engage in fucking crazy intense, high-pitched battles for cities, then well you're (A) a pansywillow, and (B) worthless.

And yea, the most intense shit around is... yea, Warcraft 3. Nothing else touches it.

[remnant]

Whoa, Capcom is still in the fighting game buisness, Street Fighter Collection and Capcom Fighting Jam have both just come out.

And if you're referring to the new 3d KOF, then



Just like Comedy is a genre for games?

Yes fighting games are dying. Am not saying don't play them.

The comedy genre is my personal taste. A lot of people see GTA and true Crime as car part of a "carjacking" genre. It just depends on how you see it. You may not agree but i will always see Sam and Max as great funny games and put them in MY own genre for them. the " comedy genre"

[BEBOPlover]

I don't think it's being arbitrtary at all. I'd say you'd be hard pressed to find 5 people who think that Zelda, Metal Slug and Doom are all in the same genre. Those games have almost nothing in common.

Summed up nicely. I thought Edge magazine was pushing it when they put Halo and Ikaruga into the same genre. But at least they gave a respectable enough reason. That being the player acquires targets and shoots them.

[Brand X]

Yes fighting games are dying. Am not saying don't play them.

In comparison to how many fighting games were released in past years? I really have to disagree with you, new DOA just came out, Guilty Gear XX Reloaded, and now Isuka, Capcom Fighting Jam and Street Fighter Collection, Capcom Vs SNK, these are all fighting games that came out with in a 4 month range. I wouldn't call 6 DIFFERENT fighting games within 4 months a dying genre, but that is just me.

The genre is not dying by any means, it is just not as strong as before.

[Dipstick]

In comparison to how many fighting games were released in past years? I really have to disagree with you, new DOA just came out, Guilty Gear XX Reloaded, and now Isuka, Capcom Fighting Jam and Street Fighter Collection, Capcom Vs SNK, these are all fighting games that came out with in a 4 month range. I wouldn't call 6 DIFFERENT fighting games within 4 months a dying genre, but that is just me.

The genre is not dying by any means, it is just not as strong as before.

You just proved his point.

Dead or Alive Ulitmate is a remake of Dead or Alive 2 (with online support, which is a really nice addition all things considered, but the game still plays like DoA2).

Guilty Gear XX#R is an update to GGXX, which was an update to GGX, which was an update to GG. At least Guilty Gear Isuka is a different (if flawed) concept.

Street Fighter Anniversary Collection is a anaglamation of the old-school Street Fighter games and a rerelease of Street Fighter 3: Third Strike. Capcom Fighting Jam is an anaglamation of five different Capcom engines with almost no new content.

SNK vs. Capcom is a crossover project, was due to come out four to five years ago, and is complete ass.

So we have a remake, a rerelease, an update, two mismashes, and a steaming pile. GGI is the only game with any freshness to it. Really no worse than the rest of the industry, but fighting games do not have the luxury of being the popular thing (like WW2-era FPS games and free-roaming adventures in crime). There are many reasons as to why this happened; my pet reasons are how the developers released too many incremental updates too quickly, flooding the market and marginalizing out anyone but the most hardcore players.

-Dippy