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  1. This shouldnt be surprising. Americans always back the sitting President during wartime. Americans dont elect senators for President. Americans dont like uptight Massachusetts liberals.

  2. Quote Originally Posted by Yoshi
    269-242=1? I guess that math backs up my earlier statements.
    Have Iowa and New Mexico offically been announced? I'm still showing 254-252 chief, I was off by one.

  3. Yahoo news is reporting that Kerry has called Bush to concede.

    http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...n_election_rdp

    AP: Kerry Calls Bush to Concede Presidency

    3 minutes ago Top Stories - AP


    By CALVIN WOODWARD and RON FOURNIER, Associated Press Writers

    WASHINGTON - President Bush (news - web sites) won a second term from a divided and anxious nation, his promise of steady, strong wartime leadership trumping John Kerry (news - web sites)'s fresh-start approach to Iraq (news - web sites) and joblessness. After a long, tense night of vote counting, the Democrat called Bush Wednesday to concede Ohio and the presidency, The Associated Press learned.

    Kerry ended his quest, concluding one of the most expensive and bitterly contested races on record, with a call to the president shortly after 11 a.m. EST, according to two officials familiar with the conversation.




  4. Yep, Kerry made the call. It's over.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Scourge
    Yahoo news is reporting that Kerry has called Bush to concede
    Wow.

    Might as well I suppose, that's what the republicans did to Gore last time.

  6. Quote Originally Posted by diffusionx
    This shouldnt be surprising. Americans always back the sitting President during wartime. Americans dont elect senators for President. Americans dont like uptight Massachusetts liberals.
    Uptight liberals? I'm sorry liberals don't typically strike me as "uptight" conservatives who don't find "those people" to be morally acceptable in some way strikes me as uptight.

    Liberal? Uptight?

    Dead on about that senator comment though, we like governors alot better for some reason. Reagan, Bush2 , Carter, Clinton, all governors.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Yoshi
    You understand that increased revenue from business across the nation increase tax income, even if the rates go down slightly, right? Contrary to incorrect liberal belief, increasing tax rates is not the only way to increase tax revenue.
    That's all well and true in a situation in which there's time to gradually build up that revenue, with no huge spending to pay off. Now, however, we are in a war in which we are spending a ton of money, and that gradual revenue gain is not properly offsetting the costs we are incurring. Not to mention that $300 rebate check is good times for the here and now, but its nothing next to its effects, which we're already feeling. Jobs are going down in yearly pay much more than that $300 offsets, so people are really losing money in the long run. Once-yearly pouring-in of tax rebate spending to the economy is much lower than overall spending if people were earning $1000s of dollars more yearly without that tax rebate.

    If taxes had just stayed the same, we'd be in a much better position. I'm not a proponent of raising them, but unfortunately that may be neccessary. It's not the popular thing to do, I know. But sometimes things gotta be done. We are in a hole, and if we just keep going status quo we will never get out.
    You can use bold font, but that won't change the fact that this is only "the largest deficit this nation has ever seen" because of inflation. On a percentage basis, this deficit is not that large and is frankly not the armageddon scenario that the minority party would like to fool people into thinking it is.
    "This bullet wound is nothing serious, I mean I'm bleeding pretty badly but I'm still alive. It could have been worse. I'll just ignore and hope for the best."

  8. Interesting thing about the debt I've always thought is who's gonna make the united states pay its debts? I mean really what nation at this time would call us and ask for the money with "or else" attatched.

    Not being an asshole just wondering, seriously whats the consequence of having a massive debt when no one is gonna make you pay, and no one will deny you further credit?

  9. Quote Originally Posted by MarsKitten
    Interesting thing about the debt I've always thought is who's gonna make the united states pay its debts? I mean really what nation at this time would call us and ask for the money with "or else" attatched.

    Not being an asshole just wondering, seriously whats the consequence of having a massive debt when no one is gonna make you pay, and no one will deny you further credit?
    The world economy would collapse - and the world knows it.

  10. It's over. Kerry concedes

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