not everyone, but a lot of people voted on "cultural values" as per their ballots. More than anticipated by the democrats, apparently. And with 11 states against gays on their ballots, I mean...scary.
There's no possible way you could know why everyone voted the way they did. Believe it or not, some people voted for Bush because they agreed with some of his policies other than gay marriage. Don't generalize your nation so much, it's very naive.Originally Posted by OmniGear
Originally Posted by rezo
not everyone, but a lot of people voted on "cultural values" as per their ballots. More than anticipated by the democrats, apparently. And with 11 states against gays on their ballots, I mean...scary.
God bless deadbeats.Originally Posted by stormy
Them voting differently than you doesn't mean they don't care and are lazy. I don't understand how so many people can be so juvenile about the electoral process.Originally Posted by Mman
Originally Posted by rezo
Huh? Ironic? Is democracy gay?Originally Posted by diffusionx
Quick zephyrs blow, vexing daft Jim.
When, a month ago, the Liberals got the goverment AND the senate in Australia, I didn't get upset or pissed, despite believing John Howard is going to destroy Australia from the inside. Instead, I set myself up to become a card carrying member of the Labor Party and signed up for volunteer work.
The facts are this, when the next election rolls up, Bush will be gone, and if the Republican Right don't self hate, they will not oppose the running of McCain. Hillary, although she is a bitch, would still do a good decent job running America. So in four years time, it will be a win-win situation.
The only thing that makes me sad, <hippy pinko mode>
This generation, the 80s-to-how long when it stops, are the prosperous short sighted arsehole generation. We are the ones that sold out the environment and the under classes so we could have excellent uneventful boringly comfortable lives instead of good uneventful boringly comfortable lives.
</hippy pinko mode>
Mustafa Mond just turned on the decanting plant.
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Quick zephyrs blow, vexing daft Jim.
Then our baby boomer parents taught us well.This generation, the 80s-to-how long when it stops, are the prosperous short sighted arsehole generation. We are the ones that sold out the environment and the under classes so we could have excellent uneventful boringly comfortable lives instead of good uneventful boringly comfortable live.
Truer words have never been spoken.Originally Posted by diffusionx
Quick zephyrs blow, vexing daft Jim.
World dismayed as Bush wins second termOriginally Posted by Mike
By DOUG SAUNDERS
From Thursday's Globe and Mail
London — For the past four years, many people around the world have been able to convince themselves that George W. Bush was a fleeting spectre who did not really represent his country or its people.
Yesterday, national leaders and ordinary citizens in dozens of countries were forced to change that assessment.
For some, it meant downgrading their view of the American people. By giving Mr. Bush a strong majority in a fair and well-attended election, Americans convinced the world that they really meant it — and the world wasn't always happy to hear that.
"I had previously told my friends that I support the American people but that I do not support their leader, who they did not truly choose and who did not represent their beliefs," a Parisian student said on Radio France last night.
"Now I understand that there is truly unity in their beliefs, and I am not so confident about America."
Others chose the opposite response: Realizing that Mr. Bush is now a permanent fixture and a genuine reflection of political views in the world's most important economy, leaders scrambled to mend fences.
Leaders in France, Germany and Spain, who had been hostile to Mr. Bush over the Iraq war, were unusually lavish in their efforts to talk of a new relationship with the United States.
While much of this was perfunctory diplomatic praise, senior journalists in France and Germany reported that the re-election had taken their leaders by surprise and forced a reassessment of the frayed transatlantic relationship.
"Because the Americans cannot imaginably build, direct and inspire the world all by themselves, it is necessary to try to restore American confidence in the European project," French Foreign Minister Michel Barnier said yesterday.
For the most part, the world seemed shocked that Mr. Bush could be re-elected. Polls taken last month showed that if the world's citizens were given a vote in the U.S. election, only Russians and Israelis would have chosen Mr. Bush. Most nations strongly opposed him.
"American voters seemed to be rallying strongly around Bush over the issue of national security, while many in the Third World countries expected Kerry to win," said C..M. Safi Sami, a former Bangladeshi foreign secretary. "They will be disappointed."
Some traditional opponents of Mr. Bush found surprising reasons for optimism. For one thing, he is a stronger supporter of free trade than is Mr. Kerry, a cause for optimism in the developing world, where some people feared that Mr. Kerry would close U.S. markets to foreign exports, limit international investment and put a stop to the outsourcing of jobs.
"It is more than ironic that the state that gave Bush the election, Ohio, was also the site of Kerry's most vicious attacks against outsourcing," the Hindustan Times of India editorialized yesterday.
"By losing that state against a candidate who refused to say a bad word against outsourcing, it is hoped this election has put the job-export bogey to rest once and for all. As many as 100,000 jobs in India are now safe, and several hundred thousand potential jobs in the future are more likely."
A Kuwaiti official argued that the Arab world is lucky to have Mr. Bush in place because Mr. Kerry is a supporter of alternative-energy sources, which would threaten the region's oil industry.
But those views were the exceptions. In Arab countries, Mr. Bush's re-election was greeted with fear by leaders, journalists and many citizens. There was a sense in much of the commentary that the second term of Mr. Bush would be less conciliatory toward Arabs.
"Bush could take this as a sign that his foreign policy in the region is a success, and he may harden his positions," Jasim Ali, a political analyst in Bahrain, told Reuters. "There will be more killing and bloodshed."
Indeed, many of Mr. Bush's supporters expressed a similar view, though in optimistic terms: A victory for Mr. Kerry, they argued, would have been a victory for the terrorists.
As Russian President Vladimir Putin said yesterday, "We should be glad that Americans haven't been intimidated into making the wrong decision."
-Kyo
I dunno if I speak for anyone else, but personally I don't give a flying fuck who Radio France thinks should be the American President. The rest of the world has in general hated America since long before George W. Bush. Any country that's going to look down on "Americans" because we voted for George Bush over John Kerry can swing from my ballbag. Sorry to dissapoint you, here in America (unlike places like France and Spain) we aren't pussies. And quit funding terrorism or else we're going to blow you up next.
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