Nintendo did it first!

[Agent X]

The Atari 7800 often gets credited for being the first console to have backwards compatibility without an adapter although Sega's Mark III was the first console released to do this.

This should probably still be credited to the Atari 7800, since it had a very limited test market release in 1984.

[Roufuss]

Obviously he was being facetious when he was totting EA as a company without a soul. Companies aren't people, they never had souls to begin with and therefore cannot misplace them or get rid of them. Corporations are to be looked upon as evil because they do not care about you, they only care about money.

EA puts out some quality games, a lot of quality games, and I don't think throwing them by the wayside is as clever as people make it out to be.

This is one of the most intelligent things I've heard on this forum.

[NeoZeedeater]

This should probably still be credited to the Atari 7800, since it had a very limited test market release in 1984.

You're right. I forgot about the test release. Even if only 3 people in California bought it, it still counts as being first.

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the moral of this thread: Nintendo created retarded Fanboys FIRST.

[Scourge]

the moral of this thread: Nintendo created retarded Fanboys FIRST.

That's a myth too. I think Colecovision did that.

[jarrod]

Calling Zelda an "Action RPG" is already a misconception by itself. Zelda is not considered to be a RPG since it doesn't involve statistic-building like an actual RPG such as Dragon Warrior and Final Fantasy.

Sure, but many developers in Japan really point to Zelda 1 as being where the genre took form. Genre definitions are slippery too, using the statistic bulding definier we could say Kid Icarus is an RPG and Chrono Cross isn't... I don't think it's that simple. As for Nintendo themselves, they only consider Majora's Mask to be an ARPG and label the rest as adventure games (despite Zelda II's experience based rather than item based character progression).

Personally, I don't see the problem with calling Zelda either an adventure game or an action RPG, but then I tend to have more fluid genre definitions and associations. Zelda certianly has ties to both genres though.

The term "Simulation RPG" was first coined by Nintendo with the release of Fire Emblem in 1990. Prior to that, there were Simulation games like the Romance of the Three Kingdoms series and conventional RPGs, but I believe Fire Emblem was one of the earliest games to combine elements from both genres.

Ah yes, forgot about that. Most just lump "Simualtion RPG" and "Strategy RPG" into the same subgenre though.

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That's a myth too. I think Colecovision did that.

The Connecticut Leather Company rules. I was never a fan of their console though...Smurfs 4 Lyfe!

[Captain Canuck]

Wasnt the Nights controller already in design around the sametime as the N64 one? I think it was but Nintendo just released it first. Same thing with Ridge Racer and Daytona I think? Ridge Racer came out first but Daytona was shown to people a long time before RR came out. Anyone have any ideas on who started development on these things first?

[jarrod]

Wasnt the Nights controller already in design around the sametime as the N64 one? I think it was but Nintendo just released it first. Same thing with Ridge Racer and Daytona I think? Ridge Racer came out first but Daytona was shown to people a long time before RR came out. Anyone have any ideas on who started development on these things first?

The N64 controller was not only released prior to NiGHTS, but it was also shown earlier (summer 1995 iirc). I'm less sure about Ridge Racer & Daytona, but I really doubt Daytona was shown first given they released in different years (1993 vs 1994 iirc). I guess it's possible.

[Wildkat]

The Connecticut Leather Company rules. I was never a fan of their console though...Smurfs 4 Lyfe!

Cabbage Patch Kids in the hizzy!