Nintendo did it first!

[gamevet]

Myth - Nintendo made the first console analog controller.


Fact - The Atari 5200 had the first console analog joystick.

Wouldn't the Intellevision disc pad, provided analog steering in racing games? I remember turning the disk, to control the steering in some racing games.

Let's not shit on a good thread

That happened as soon as remnant opened his mouth.

Was there some kind of hidden message here, because I never said that?

[NeoZeedeater]

Actually, the one thing you missed, is the one thing that is said the most.

Nintendo saved console gaming.

I was only including "firsts" so it didn't really fit. Plus, people can argue that they saved North American console gaming, it's the "saved video gaming" thing that's completely false. I do think by focusing on the console aspect, people are giving themselves a very narrow view of the '80s though. The C64 is technically a personal computer but it had more in common with consoles than today's PCs. When people apply 2004 game industry concepts to analyze the industry of 1984 it does not work. Context is very important.

Why would you think that exactly? They're games using a form of video interface after all, how do we define "video game"?

They don't use a computer to generate images on a screen. Most people would consider this a necessary part of being a video game besides containing both "video" and "game". It's the reason games like Space War and Pong are mentioned in early video game history and Wild Gunman is not. It's not something I planned to debate though as my comment was about the myth that the Nintendo Zapper was the first home video game gun.

How about Nintendo creating the kart racing genre (Super Mario Kart) and the classics compilation genre (Super Mario All-Stars)?

I don't know what the first cart racer would be but Sega's Power Drift is older than Super Mario Kart.

How about more controversially, Nintendo originating the ARPG (Zelda no Densetsu) SRPG (Fire Emblem) genres? I've actually seen plenty of people miscredit SRPGs to starting with Sega & Shining Force believe it or not.

ARPGs are traceable to The Temple of Apshai. My strategy knowledge is kind of weak but Square's Hanjuku Hero is older than Fire Emblem and seems to qualify as an SRPG.

Nice thread idea, Neo. I figured you'd do something about myths industry-wide, but this is cool (unless, of course, that's what you're planning to do later).

I don't plan on doing an industry-wide myth topic but it was a great suggestion you made previously. I didn't plan on doing any history threads anymore but I just decided to make this one this morning.

I agree with everything but the Intellivison thing, which I believe has already been covered by a very old thread. The Intellivision Disc was not created to be used the way people use it now (after using the Nintendo invented "Control Pad"), the Intellivision Disc is just a flat joystick made so the controllers snuggly fit in the bays on the console. Try finding a manual on the console and look how it's supposed to be used.

The InTV's d-pad functions pretty much the same as Nintendo's d-pad. I always controlled it with my thumb. I hate the InTV controller but I would definitely say it has a d-pad albeit an odd one.

Thanks for the compliments from the sane people here.

[Opaque]

I agree with what remnant said

You're dead to me.

[Survival Kid]

Was there some kind of hidden message here, because I never said that?

Dunno how that happened. Fixed.

[kuro]

Awesome read, I didn't even know about the four controller ports on the Bally Professional Arcade.

[AstroBlue]

Thanks for the compliments from the sane people here.

Why don't you write for TNL?

[SpoDaddy]

I thought everyone knew these things already? Almost nothing that a company is known for is something they invented, it's usually something they perfected. I do think it's crazy to say the PSX was as important to the industry as the NES, Sony didn't really do anything when you think about it other than taking the Sega Genesis marketing model and running with it.

[JMET]

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[Geen]

I do think it's crazy to say the PSX was as important to the industry as the NES, Sony didn't really do anything when you think about it other than taking the Sega Genesis marketing model and running with it.

I think this pretty much sums it up.

I think Sony can safely be credited for making video games a common place activity like going to the movies or listening to music instead of an outcast one like Dungeons and Dragons.

[toxic]

Even with the aid of a comic, your point is wrong.

The Genesis was more instrumental (specifically EA sports games) in bringing new gamers into the fold. Sony just continued what the Genesis started.

Anyways, in my initial post, I didn't commend Neo on a good job. It's very interesting, and has pretty pictures ... which is good for dumb ppl like me.

But the thrust of his arguement is that this is common thinking among gamers. When actually, its only the thinking of a minority of vocal Nintendofans ... which according to console sales .... is a very small slice of the market.

I still stand by my comment that initially ... Remnant was correct. Then, unfortunately, he continued to post stupid shit.