Reply With QuoteYes.Originally Posted by EvilMog007
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You know that all 3 next gen systems games will look exactly the same no matter what the specifications they have. Do Xbox, GameCube and PS2 look that much different now?.......well most games anyways.
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Yes.
Pale Hose Fan
Too bad I never claimed that any one system was better than another, just that Sony would retain its dominance in the market with the PS3. Sony has already proven that you don't need the most powerful system each gen to win anyway, and whichever next-gen system you believe will be "better" is entirely irrelevant.
The only things Microsoft has proven this gen is that they have the ability to spend billions of dollars in exchange for no appreciable gain on the market leader and that online play is still an insignificant selling point to the average console buyer. Clearly a rousing success story there.
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Last edited by Mamoscott; 23 Dec 2004 at 07:21 AM.
Das Vampyr Jäger
For the most part, it's not bad at all the launch of most of the next gen systems won't be till 2006. When the PS2 finally came around to taking the PS1's place, the system had just about been milked all it could. The last truly major release for the original PSX that I can remember was Final Fantasy IX the same fall the PS2 was released domestically. It was all pretty much downhill from there.
Meanwhile PS2 is still getting Final Fantasy XII and Kingdom Hearts 2 from SquareEnix alone in 2005. It's definitely on it's last legs and the apex of great games for the system was definitely 2002-2004, but one more decent year yet remains for the PS2.
The PS2 really is holding stuff back, though, there really is no reason why just about everything out there can't look as good as DoA Ultimate and Ninja Gaiden do. That's why whenever a game gets released on all three consoles more often than not the PS2 rev ends up being the worst across the board.
Playing games like Viewtiful Joe side-by-side on PS2 versus how great it looks on the GC is a good example, to see how a formerly GC-exlusive and programmed-for game had to be downgraded just to run effectively on the system. I shudder to think how bad RE4 will come off on PS2 later next year compared to how insanely gorgeous the GC rev is.
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So you buy all the multiplatform games on a random system and not the Xbox exclusively, because they all look the same, right?
level six laser lotus
It's a good thing that's not what this is, then. We're debating where each company is poised strategically, not which will have the better system.
No appreciable gain? In Japan, maybe, but that's not the case here. On the developer side, that's totally wrong, read the first paragraph of this post again, they've come a long way; if devs are putting trust in games to do well on Xbox while it's however many million units behind the competition, they'll put much more trust in Xbox 2 with it starting from scratch again alongside (or before) the PS3. And on the sales side, you obviously haven't looked at this year's console sales, Xbox has outsold PS2 every month but one or two.
Even if they don't have an Xbox, most people recognize the Xbox name; yes, not quite as many as PS, but it's not far behind. A lot of people only have PS2 because they buy one console a generation, and they bought a PS2 in the 3 years when Xbox was either not on the market yet or still making a name for itself. That's not the situation anymore, despite the overall sales numbers, they're almost on equal footing as far as mindshare and recognizability are concerned. You pass that off as insignifigant?
Pale Hose Fan
What does that have to do with trust? All that tells me is that publishers love releasing cheap and dirty Xbox ports of games originally designed for the PS2 to earn a few extra dollars. Coincidentally, two of the five top selling Xbox games piku listed are also available on the PS2, and three of those five games have superior versions available for the PC.
Xbox console sales have no where to go but up, and everyone already has a PS2. In a race, you aren't catching up to your opponent when he has already crossed the finish line and started to slow down for his victory lap.And on the sales side, you obviously haven't looked at this year's console sales, Xbox has outsold PS2 every month but one or two.
More people have a PS2, because it has the games they want (including just about every worthwhile game released on the Xbox), not simply because it came out first. If you're only going to buy one console per generation, you'd be insane to not go with Sony's system - in this generation or the next.
Sony has everything MS has (with the exception of Bungie) and much more.
Last edited by Mamoscott; 23 Dec 2004 at 12:49 PM.
level six laser lotus
Thanks for sorting things out, Captain Future.If you're only going to buy one console per generation, you'd be insane to not go with Sony's system - in this generation or the next.
He's absolutely right. Contrary to this board's skewed view of the world, the Xbox lineup is closer to the GameCube's than to the PS2's. There is nothing that has happened thus far to make me think that the next round will be different, especially when it is quite likely that Sony will actually have better hardware this time.
zero bubble
3 pages in -- almost time to start naming (and then dissing) Xbox exclusives.
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