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Thread: Spider-man 3

  1. There was too much shit going on. We had two movies with substories building to this huge Parker/Harry fued and he was given amnesia for the entire start and majority of the middle of the story in the third. That's lame. The fight scene at the beginning with Spidey and New Goblin was great.

    Not to mention Venom and Eddy Brock are both dead too. Venom was completely monked in this movie.
    Last edited by Drewbacca; 13 May 2007 at 02:16 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by rezo
    Once, a gang of fat girls threatened to beat me up for not cottoning to their advances. As they explained it to me: "guys can usually beat up girls, but we are all fat, and there are a lot of us."

  2. I wonder if in fact Venom is dead, considering the lack of a body and the possibility that Brock could have reunited with the symbiote in time to spare it from annihilation. I also don't think he was a scrub in any way, he was kicking Peter's rear despite the fact that Peter was far more experienced in his abilities than the neophyte Brock - experience which ultimately allowed Peter to defeat the monster, with help from Harry.

    I'm inclined to believe that the symbiote was the dominant force in the Venom creature, considering how fierce and monstrous the Venom creature immediately was, and that it didn't trigger Peter's spider-sense. Maybe it could be the Brock's will isn't as strong as Peter's, or that the symbiote hadn't been accustomed to a human being initially, but I think Brock embracing a rare reciprocal figure in his life - especially one that allowed him some of the augmented powers of Spider-man among other abilities - may have also had something to do with it.

    The steady progression of Peter's experience as Spider-man against major villains has been handled extremely well, now that I think about it:

    (1) He relied on (blind) instinct to get past the high-tech gadgetry of the Green Goblin to the point where the Goblin killed himself by his own inexperience as a business-man-turned-enhanced-metahuman.

    (2) He couldn't defeat Dr. Octopus physically but relied on his mind to draw Otto Octavius away from the thrall of the harness/tentacles, and an awakened Octavius decided to end the catastrophe he was about to create as well as the monster he had become.

    (3) In fighting back at what looked to be the second coming of the Goblin, the man who almost killed Spider-man at the beginning, he unknowingly put the somewhat-inexperienced Harry's life at risk (Harry must have trained some, at least with the glider, given how well was throughout the movie). Peter did a sound job of holding his own despite the surprise attack though.

    (4) Despite being battered by the duo of Sandman and Venom, Peter used both his mind and body to defeat the symbiote/Venom, although the chance to do so only came after a lethal attack that Peter was spared from thanks to Harry sacrificing himself for the closest thing to family he's probably ever had.

    (*) One could also argue that a more experienced Peter was able to defeat the Sandman. Granted he was benefiting from the symbiote augmenting some of his abilities, it was Peter's keen mind that made him release the flood of water which dissolved Marko.

  3. You saw Eddy's skeleton get nuked and the symbiote flail as it burnt down to nothing. I'm going to consider him dead until I see a preview for Spiderman 4 with him in it. Venom had very little time to build properly. And the Sandman didn't either. There should have been more to Sandman - Spiderman than just the water fight where he thinks he's killed Sandman. The Venom offer seemed like a huge cop-out. And I also enjoyed the big lumbering morphing sand aspects of the character and his fights.

    Harry magically getting over his hatred for Parker because of his butler magically knowing all about what happened that fateful night was a quick fix. I'm sure Raimi and his team could have had something better (and maybe they did) but instead had to devote some time to Brock.

    I will say that overall I enjoyed the movie for what it was and this is just simple nerdy bitching on my behalf. It was entertaining and it had some truly great moments. It just wasn't the movie I was hoping it would be. I don't know if it ever even could be so I'm going to have to just be satisfied with it and move on.
    Last edited by Drewbacca; 13 May 2007 at 10:00 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by rezo
    Once, a gang of fat girls threatened to beat me up for not cottoning to their advances. As they explained it to me: "guys can usually beat up girls, but we are all fat, and there are a lot of us."

  4. They can always say that a scrap of the symbiote survived, and that once it's fully bonded to a host it can regenerate the host's body. I certainly think that Venom's a lot more likely than Harry to be the one coming back.

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  5. I would rather see harry come back.
    Check out Mr. Businessman
    He bought some wild, wild life
    On the way to the stock exchange
    He got some wild, wild life

  6. I'm pretty sure I heard that Topher Grace signed on to more than one Spider-man movie back when he was announced as Eddie Brock.

    They should just kill off Spider-man in the next movie since he is a such a gaylord and have Spider-man 5 about how zombies & skeletons killed Spider-man and the mysterious French Sommelier must save the world from it's doom.

  7. The database, red blink tag, etc!

  8. Quote Originally Posted by epmode View Post
    The database, red blink tag, etc!
    OMFG TMFDB
    You sir, are a hideous hermaphroditical character which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by epmode View Post
    The database, red blink tag, etc!
    yay THE DATABASE yay

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Drewbacca View Post
    You saw Eddy's skeleton get nuked and the symbiote flail as it burnt down to nothing. I'm going to consider him dead until I see a preview for Spiderman 4 with him in it.
    Dr. Connors still has a piece of the symbiote intact...

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