Spider-man 3

**Cafeman** · 02 Jun 2007, 10:18 AM

Thinking back on my years of reading all the Spider-Man books, it is surprising to me that Spidey's greatest adversary has never been in any of the films, and probably won't be.

Kingpin.

A Kingpin story could be just the grounding that a fourth Spider-Man film would need. Peter could begin to study criminology because he suspects various crimes are being set up by one powerful man. Imagine a scene like TESB's Bounty Hunters scene -- Kingpin meets with Rhino, Mysterio, Shocker, Sandman and offers a cool $5 Million to whomever brings Spidey to him alive and "contained". You could throw all the lunatic C-grade villains in this one scene, also have Spidey fight 2 of them as they tried to ambush him during the film. But the main thrust of the film should be about Doc Conners & the Lizard.

**Drewbacca** · 02 Jun 2007, 10:56 AM

That's because Daredevil ruined Kingpin for everyone else. Not because he was played by a black man, but because the movie was horrible.

**JBNagis** · 02 Jun 2007, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by Dolemite

He probably wouldn't stand a chance. Shocker uses vibration as his weapon, not sound.

Shocker is electricity. And he would probably piss his pants if he ever had to go up against Venom. And sound IS vibration

In the comics Venom is anything BUT a serial killer. In fact, he (usually) goes out of his way to avoid killing innocents. Maybe you're thinkin of Carnage.

Yeah i think i was. But Venom aint innocent. Even during his "hero" phase in comics he still killed people. And god i hope they dont do carnage. i meen the guys name is Cletos.

IBTN. Kraven is a total faggot.

Read Kravens Last Hunt.

JBNagis

**Anthony** · 02 Jun 2007, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by Dolemite

I've always been a big Shocker fan. I just said that because I don't think anyone else gives a shit about him.

He probably wouldn't stand a chance. Shocker uses vibration as his weapon, not sound.

See what I mean, Destin? No one takes Shocker seriously but you and me.

Oh I always thought it was sorta the same thing.

Shocker has always seemed like core spiderman villian to me. Wasn't he part of the sinsiter six?

**Dolemite** · 02 Jun 2007, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by JBNagis

Shocker is electricity.

No, that's Electro.

And sound IS vibration

You're right for the most part, but something can vibrate without making noise and something can make noise without vibrating. In the comics, however, they never talk about Shocker's attacks making any noise, just shocks (via vibration).

But Venom aint innocent. Even during his "hero" phase in comics he still killed people.

True, but not innocent bystanders. In fact, I remember one time he broke off an attack on a helpless Spidey to rescue a drowning baby. Ain't that sweet?

**Error** · 02 Jun 2007, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by Dolemite

Something can vibrate without making noise and something can make noise without vibrating.

Something might vibrate in a range of frequency for humans to not hear it, but it makes a noise. And nothing can make a noise without vibrating, the vibrations are what we hear.

**Drewbacca** · 03 Jun 2007, 12:27 AM

What about a tree in a forest with no one around?

**Razor Ramon** · 03 Jun 2007, 02:07 PM

You still wouldn't get a laugh.

**JBNagis** · 03 Jun 2007, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by Dolemite

No, that's Electro.

Oops my bad. The reason i got confused is cus they tend to draw Shockers attacks to look like electricity.

True, but not innocent bystanders. In fact, I remember one time he broke off an attack on a helpless Spidey to rescue a drowning baby. Ain't that sweet?

I think that was during his Deadly Avenger phase when he tried to be a hero. But no matter how many innocents he saves he;s still stadistic. Read the new thunderbolts comic to see. hes insane. And i believe the host is what stops him from being a cold blooded killer. One mini series had a piece of him break off and grow into its own Venom. He went on a bloody rampage and killed like 20 people. And possesed Wolverien for a brief time.

But i still dont think Shocker would make a good main villian. maybe a villian he beats the snot out of in the beginning of the movie. But as long as they dont do The Vulture im okay.

Yeah..you can keep that to yourself.

JBNagis