I love how spider-man in the black suit was basically Owen Wilson.
I saw this on its opening night. It sucked. The second one is much better.
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I think she figured it out in 2, when he saved her during the bank sequence. Later she gives him a pep talk that makes it pretty clear she knows (without actually saying it, of course). I don't think she knows in 1, she makes some disparaging remarks about Spidey IIRC.
Anyway, I think they left the issue with Sandman's daughter unresolved intentionally, in case they want to use him again. Maybe Kingpin or somebody offers to save her if he does one more dirty deed, maybe a spinoff where he goes to the government and says look, no jail can hold me now, so how about we both stop wasting our time, you take care of my kid's problem, and in return, I go to countries I can't pronounce and kill the bad guys for you for the next ten years.
Coming from the guy who said Blade 1 and 2 sucked?
So you dislike good films, and like shitty movies. Congrats.
This is the shit that makes me wonder wtf is the world smoking right about now. What would you have liked to have Raimi do with the film? Have a sit down, and chat about the backstory of the suit, or such and such character's origin story, or why he cant sense his suit, or whatever else you can think of? Yea, lets use 20 minutes, stop the flow of the film, and explain WHY this guy is here, and shit. Then you all would complain about the "pacing", or some other stupid shit. Some things just arent meant to be picked up on by the average joe. Subtle, comic book geek shit like that is not important to the average movie-goer. All they wanna see is this "Venom" their kid is yammering about kick Spidey's red and blue ass.
My thoughts: Flick was good. Very good. We all wondered if Venom would be done justice. Not only was he pulled off, but this would have been a really weak film without him. Sandman's cool, and the special effects were awesome, but c'mon. You all saw this film with the intent of seeing some Venom. I know I did.
The pacing was fine for this, aswell. I dont feel like I "missed" something. There wasnt anything "forced", is what I'm saying.
I'm Rambling.
Good flick. 2 thumbs up. Awaiting that DVD.
Last edited by Kairi; 07 May 2007 at 05:34 AM.
I liked the movie, I really did. But saying Venom or Sandman were done Justice and nothing was missed is just lying to yourself. Sandman could have been built much better as a guy who does wrong, but just for the sake of saving someone he loves. He needed to be seen more as a not a villian exactly, but a man who just made some bad choices. That's the key to Sandman as a bad guy. It was definitely missing, and having him go off on a long monologue at the very end doesn't make up for not properly developing it through the movie.
And Venom. Oh god the Venom possibilities. Brock could have been even better developed (not that what was done with terrible, but more would have worked). And time should have been spent with Venom stalking Peter, taunting him, ruining his life as only he could. Remember Venom knows EVERYTHING about Peter, everything. He could have been so much more then a last 15 minute throw in.
Plain and simply, this needed to be two movies. It was good as one, it could have been amazing as two.
You sir, are a hideous hermaphroditical character which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman.
Did you miss where he was speaking with his wife, about him not being the "bad guy"? Did he not come off as a typical "Villian"? Did he start just slaugtering the masses ala Goblin? I dont get it. You saw a different film from what I saw.
EDIT: Franco was amazing in this, btw.
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Last edited by Kairi; 07 May 2007 at 05:46 AM.
He had a whole 6 scenes in the entire movie. Maybe 30 minutes of the entire movie, most of those scenes spent as fight scenes.
He had the one scene with his wife and him saying that he's not a "bad guy" but from that point forward, yes, he did come off as a typical "Villian" until that ending monologue.
You sir, are a hideous hermaphroditical character which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman.
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