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**Mykozo** · 21 Feb 2005, 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by Scourge

n00b

Oh, and I'M not in that group. Sounds like an expediant, selfish way to have a ready excuse to get out of a relationship that could possibly be saved. There's a kid involved here. You'd speed up messing with your child's head so you can get some pussy? Yay.

In my experience, and in the testimonial experience of other married people I've known, once it's gone, it's gone. If there was a genuine desire to make it work, then the parties involved would do it. And kid's live much better lives if they have two HAPPY parents, rather than two parents at each others throats, screaming and fighting all the time. Sometimes an amicable split, with an agreement to be reponsible to the needs of the kids, is the only thing that works.

No need to wait for the tang. The tang is ripe for the pickin' so pick it.

**cka** · 21 Feb 2005, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by Dolemite

It does seem fishy, since she's already "in love" with him...

Who's not, he's a dreamboat

Also sorry to hear about the divorce stuff and all that jazz but hey, you gotta do what you gotta do when lookin out for number one...

**Calliander** · 21 Feb 2005, 10:00 PM

haohmaru: Please do not listen to the nerds who don't get any "poontang" giving you advice on it or the people who would gladly cheat on their significant others. Give us more details beforehand.

**Gohron** · 21 Feb 2005, 11:09 PM

My dad left my mom for another women twice, once when I was 10-11 years old. The first time it left me pretty fucked up but the women wasn't the only issue, I was having a lot of social problems and my dad wasn't around for me, he was also a herione addict at this time. I was suicidal for awhile and pretty much hated my life with a burning passion. My dad got kicked out by his girlfriend because of his drug use and came home because he was going to die and had nowhere else to go, my mom took him back in and there was some big things going on that I wouldn't be aware of until later (my dad going through withdrawal, telling my mom he was going to kill her, telling my mom to get him drugs or kill him, etc.) My dad went to a rehab program called Teen Challenge and was gone for a good year and a half but he came back a much much better man then when he had left.

My parents got off to a new start again and they were doing very well for awhile but the original problem came back, they just wern't compatible with each other. Problems kept arising and things were just getting worse, constant fighting, all that shit. I was pretty sure my parents would split up again and I actually wanted it to happen because I was sick of the arguing and I wanted them to go away on good terms and remain friends. My dad started giving me the hint he was leaving when I was around 15-16 years old, he told me he was going to leave when I turned 18 and got out of the house and then started telling me sooner. He told my mom as well, my dad really tried to work out the problems but like I said, my parents were two completely different people.

During this whole thing my mom was sort of made out to be the bad guy and then when my dad finally left I came home from something or another and all of his stuff had been packed up and ready to go by my mom. She said "Do you know what this is?" and I said "Yeah, dad is leaving, he already told me about it." She went on to tell me that he was going to live with another women and that's why he had left and my mom wasn't such a bad guy that she wasn't made out to be. This went against everything my dad had taught me and it made me hate him. I didn't talk to him for two months and I was hoping I would never see him again. Eventually I got back on speaking terms with him and started seeing him again and forgave him. The problem was that he was the order in my life at that point and I went on a huge downspiral, I started failing nearly everything in school, I was too busy bootlegging CD's and setting up contacts to sell drugs. I became a huge mess at this point, almost getting kicked out of my house many times, fighting with everyone and turning my back on everything I believed in. The solution to all of this was my own personal perseverance and coming to peace with my life which I had never really had.

So yeah, that's Gohron's story...

**Jetman** · 21 Feb 2005, 11:22 PM

Sorry, Haoh. I cant say anything else here that hasnt already been said, so I hope everything works out in the end.

As long as you know you tried everything you could to make it work out, then no regrets,man. You tried your best and its time to move on. People sometimes DO change, sometimes for the better and sometimes for the worst. Maybe your wife was in the latter category.

Good luck with the 20 year old pussy. If the Viagra gives you an erection for more than 4 hours go to an Emergency Room - IMMEDIATELY!!

**Brisco Bold** · 22 Feb 2005, 12:02 AM

Originally Posted by Rocca

I always hated that unwritten law. You're worth having because you're taken in the first place.

Damn foolish rules.

Stop feeling sorry for yourself, pussy.

**Tragic** · 22 Feb 2005, 12:16 AM

Good luck man. Hope you find happyness.

My girlfriend of 5 years and I split up yesterday.

**Scourge** · 22 Feb 2005, 01:10 AM

Originally Posted by Mykozo

In my experience, and in the testimonial experience of other married people I've known, once it's gone, it's gone. If there was a genuine desire to make it work, then the parties involved would do it. And kid's live much better lives if they have two HAPPY parents, rather than two parents at each others throats, screaming and fighting all the time. Sometimes an amicable split, with an agreement to be reponsible to the needs of the kids, is the only thing that works.

No need to wait for the tang. The tang is ripe for the pickin' so pick it.

You can consider my first post in this thread as testimonial experience that concurs with a lot you say, so I'm not just talking out of my ass here. My problem with the 20 year old thing is that everybody prior to me in this thread was like OMGWTFJUMPONIT!!!!!11 It's a lot more delicate situation than that no matter how long haoh's been "internally" dealing with his situation.

And hey, what's the harm in him and his wife getting counseling and seeing if it works? None. If he fucks a 20 year old to expediate his separation, which he said it would, then he wouldn't be giving it his all to try to fix his marriage and having fucked that 20 year old would ruin a lot of the possiblility of an amicable split, or especially any kind of reconciliation. This isn't about haoh and his wife, it's about the kid.

Yeah, it's been a long, downward spiral, but I have to wonder if he's had an honest face-to-face with his wife to really talk this stuff out. It would help, even if it didn't save anything. Clearing the air can do wonders. And as far as counseling goes, having an intermediary there provides a detached third party with an outside perspective that could help either the separation process, or possibly help the marriage out itself.