What the bleep do we know?

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http://www.whatthebleep.com/

What The Bleep Do We Know? is a movie that mostly documentary on some fringe scientific business involving quantum mechanics, cognitive science, biology altogether that makes you question reality in a way The Matrix wishes it could. I say mostly documentary because there are many sections that are dramatized (about a deaf woman who is pissed off all the time and strange alice in wonderland style things happen to her to illustrate the points the academics in the film are making). Thats not the best description, but the movie summarily the best potrayal of science and empiricism joined with religion and mystiicism.

I won't say it sums up my belifes (ones I've had and posted about here in many a religion/science thread) to a tee but it's close. It makes some (well, a lot) of leaps in assumption but they're somewhat qualifiable assumptions. Even if what they say is entirely wrong (and they likly are about some things, but proven right about many others) it is STILL a good philosopical journey down the proverbial rabbit hole.

I grabbed it as a torrent, but the DVD should be out by now. I suggest watching it in whichever way you can. If any of you HAVE seen it:

Discuss.

[MechDeus]

A bunch of friends saw it and loved it and kept yelling at me to go out and watch it but I never did. Now they're doing that to me about Million Dollar Baby. In any case, if someone hands me a copy there's a chance I might see it but I haven't really felt an urge to check it out.

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A bunch of friends saw it and loved it and kept yelling at me to go out and watch it but I never did. Now they're doing that to me about Million Dollar Baby. In any case, if someone hands me a copy there's a chance I might see it but I haven't really felt an urge to check it out.

See it, I'll consider the advice a favor.

[MechDeus]

I'll try to fit it in at some point. I have this enourmous backlog of movies and shows I want to catch up on (not counting marathons of series that I've been dying to do), but I can try to make it in with a rental or something, since those are timed so I tend to watch them right away as opposed to purchases/downloads which I own so I tend to push them aside for a while.

I finally got in Unforgiven last night (I was completely zoned out and not really in the mood but got pushed into it), which has only been about a month since my roommate purchased it primarily so that I would get to see it.

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Doesn't this have that crazy woman who talks as 'Ramtha' in it? Everytime I hear that woman on Coast 2 Coast AM or hear about her I can't help but thinking how ridiculous most New Age stuff is.

Still, this sounds like an interesting movie and I'll certainly give it a chance.

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Doesn't this have that crazy woman who talks as 'Ramtha' in it? Everytime I hear that woman on Coast 2 Coast AM or hear about her I can't help but thinking how ridiculous most New Age stuff is.

Still, this sounds like an interesting movie and I'll certainly give it a chance.

I think so. And I wouldn't call most of this new age stuff. It's fringe, for sure, but based around legitmate claims. Take it at face value? No but definitly the most interesting thing I've heard in a long long long time.

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Roger Ebert's site has a number of discussions on this thing:

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/...RMAN/410030301

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/...ERMAN/40917006

They dont have any scholars on theoretical physics, only idiots channeling some imaginary asshole from Atlantis. This film is fucking New Age garbage masquerading as a serious discussion.

By making the film "accessible" or whatever to non-experts, they are essentially just dumbing it down and allowing themselves to put whatever shit they want in.

The reason why high-level, or even intermediate-level, math or physics makes no sense to the layman is because its all built upon earlier work, and clear, concise, and specific language is needed to portray exactly what they are talking about. Someone tells me a group G is finite and abelian I know many properties of it right off the bat and then I can start discussing the order of elements in it and what not. But someone who doesnt know what abelian means is already baffled.

Now, multiple levels of such language turns out to be confusing to anyone not familiar with the foundations, and even to those familiar upon first sight. If I attempt to dumb it down or simplify it then it loses all meaning and is open to interpretation. Thus, a lack of precision in the language undermines all useful thought or process and makes it meaningless.

[Jed]

Doesn't this have that crazy woman who talks as 'Ramtha' in it? Everytime I hear that woman on Coast 2 Coast AM or hear about her I can't help but thinking how ridiculous most New Age stuff is.

Still, this sounds like an interesting movie and I'll certainly give it a chance.

Fuckin Ramtha.
I live about 10 minutes from her "compound" and it is some crazy shit. A lot of the locals in town put up with her and her croneys, because she donates alot of money, but they just won't accept that shes running a freakin cult. Her place is absolutely huge, and its all paid for by dumbasses who fork up their life savings to witness this lady channel an ancient Roman war general. The funny thing is she sued some dude a few years ago, so she could have the sole right to channel Ramtha, and I think she won.

sorry for the derail, if Ramtha is in this, I will definitely check it out. Ramtha fuckin cracks me up. http://www.ramtha.com/

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I think so. And I wouldn'tconsider most of this to be new age. It's fringe, for sure, but based around legitmate claims. Take it at face value? No but definitly the most interesting thing I've heard in a long long long time.

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Roger Ebert's...blah blah blah

Yeah, we were going to watch this movie in my English class til we informed her of hackery. She checked it out and decided to show The Office instead, which was a much better choice then this bollocks of a movie.