Forza Motorsport *Official Thread*

**Master** · 18 Mar 2005, 04:36 AM

I am predicting this game blows everyone's socks off.

**Andy** · 18 Mar 2005, 07:54 AM

Originally Posted by diffusionx

What would you consider a "simulation racer"? I have no intention of spending any significant amount of time with GT4, but Ive enjoyed some stuff like Colin McRae 2.0 and what not in the past.

I would consider Colin McRae fair game, definitely. Colin 2.0 is a hell of a long time ago, though.

Originally Posted by Master

The realtime damaging is amazing IMHO. I'm sure you were playing an early build because the damage modeling impressed me quite a bit. I wasn't expecting XNA style car crunches though, but anything is better than GT4.

Have you tried Toca Race Driver/Pro Race Driver 2? If so, how does it compare?

**Yoshi** · 18 Mar 2005, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by Master

I am predicting this game blows everyone's socks off.

It could be average, and it would blow GT4 away, so that's worth something.

**piku** · 18 Mar 2005, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by Master

I am predicting this game blows everyone's socks off.

Wait now who is the fanboy?

**Shapermc** · 18 Mar 2005, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by MVS

Is it possible to use a GT Force Pro on the XB, with a USB to XB converter?

Won't recognize on start up and doesn't seem to be a simple answer on Google.

I would pick this game up in a second if this is possible. I know that Logitech and MS love each other. So quoted in hopes that someone might know an answer.

**Diff-chan** · 18 Mar 2005, 12:48 PM

I would consider Colin McRae fair game, definitely. Colin 2.0 is a hell of a long time ago, though.

I havent really had time to get into more recent racing games outside of PGR2 which I played about a 10th of what I wanted to. Arent they up to like, Colin McRae 5? Heh. Rallisport Challenge 2 is an amazing game too but I dont know if Id call it a "simulation racer".

Racing games are probably my favorite genre overall.

**MarkRyan** · 18 Mar 2005, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by Andy

I would consider Colin McRae fair game, definitely. Colin 2.0 is a hell of a long time ago, though.

A long time ago and still probably the best one they've made

2005 is pretty good, and probably has better driving physics, but the game still feels much less perfect to me. And I love Colin McRae, but it's not really simulation in the same way that Gran Turismo and Forza are. CMR is somewhere between Gran Turismo and Need for Speed in the world of rally racing.

**Master** · 18 Mar 2005, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by piku

Wait now who is the fanboy?

Yeah. I pretty much admitted that in the first post. I will be irrational fanboyish about this game, but I also think it really is that good.

Originally Posted by Andy

Have you tried Toca Race Driver/Pro Race Driver 2? If so, how does it compare?

I personally liked Toca and Toca 2. I didn't like the story mode, though it was a nice change of pace, but the racing was fairly solid. The problem was it seemed like a very polish free port with bells and whistles thrown in at the last minute. Also, it seemed like people played it online for a week and moved on, which sucked.

I didn't finish the story mode, but I don't remember that game having very many cars at all. Does anybody know how many cars it had?

PS: I loved the way you could damage your car and it would respond, but this has really been fully realized in Forza. Beyond cosmetic damage, the cars really do change as you mess them up.

**Buzzatronic** · 18 Mar 2005, 03:39 PM

I believe Toca 2 only had about 30 cars but I agree, fantastic game.

**MarkRyan** · 18 Mar 2005, 03:54 PM

I hoped to love TOCA 2 but I hated the constantly forced switching of racing types. Some of the racing was just boring (like the big rig crap), and the game never really gives you a chance to even practice racing a new vehicle type they throw at you.