Superman Returns

[Rem]

I don't want to backtrack through the rest of the thread so I'll just ask: What the hell is up with him stepping on the island and losing his powers yet he can carry that shit to space?

An equally large mystery is how did luthor end up on a tropical island? Lets pretend there are tropical islands near matropolis for a second, why wouldn't he just fly back to his estate or something similar to it? There's no need to fly out into no mans land.

[Fe 26]

I don't want to backtrack through the rest of the thread so I'll just ask: What the hell is up with him stepping on the island and losing his powers yet he can carry that shit to space?

depends on who you ask.

But most will say that this movie superman charges up his power like a DBZ character.

An equally large mystery is how did luthor end up on a tropical island? Lets pretend there are tropical islands near matropolis for a second, why wouldn't he just fly back to his estate or something similar to it? There's no need to fly out into no mans land.

1) because it was funny
2) Gotham and Metropalis are not real cities, meaning the geography of the magical comicbook world is not like our own.

[Razor Ramon]

depends on who you ask.

But most will say that this movie superman charges up his power like a DBZ character.

[Frogacuda]

An equally large mystery is how did luthor end up on a tropical island? Lets pretend there are tropical islands near matropolis for a second, why wouldn't he just fly back to his estate or something similar to it? There's no need to fly out into no mans land.

His "estate", the boat house, was destroyed earlier. He no longer had his bad ass compound or anything. Presumably he lost that when he went to jail.

[Regus]

okay, I was SO into this movie every step of the way, then they had to go and fuck things up during the ending. I lost it when superman lifted that fucking kryptonite laced island out of the sea and launched it into space. I know that this isn't the kind of movie to nitpick things like realism, but that scene was just too much, the film makers were asking too much of me. It really took me out of the experience, I had to deduct a point from the movie.

I saw the movie in imax 3d, I don't know if I can really recommend that to others though, because although the 3d was okay, it actually detracted from the film at times. This technology is very cool, but it just works a thousand times better with animated movies.

Oh, and I will say this, they fucking NAILED the Jimmy Olsen character. I laughed at Superman's Jesus pose at the end. The little boy was wearing aquaman pajamas during the ending. I like how Perry was like the polar opposite of J.Jonah Jameson. And my favorite scene was after the plane sequence with the entire crowd cheering, that really pumped me up.

I guess my biggest complaint with this movie (incidentally, as well as with the lord of the ring movies) was that I didn't feel that there was enough "danger". Things would happen, superman would fix it. I never really felt that anyone was really threatened with imminent death. The villan was innefective in being terrifying and dangerous threat. This is something that they really need to work on.

3/5

[andyrose]

And in the comics, if Superman even got near krytonite, he was immediately hit with pain and lost all of his powers, right? I mean, he could feel it when he got within 100 feet of it, it caused him physical pain. But when he touched down on Luthor island at the end, he didn't even notice that it was a fucking KRYPTONITE ISLAND. And as Regus said, he not only doesn't sense that it's made of krytonite until someone tries to punch him and he acts like a little girl, he somehow picks it up and tosses into outer space. Lex Luthor slaps him around like a redheaded stepchild while he's on the top, but when he's on the bottom, he has the strength of a gorilla that has the strength of 10,000 gorillas. Must have been pretty concentrated on the top.

But yeah, besides that, it pretty much ruled.

[Cowutopia]

Must have been pretty concentrated on the top.

But yeah, besides that, it pretty much ruled.

Except that it all started poking out of the bottom. I didn't understand any of that kryptonite island business so I just accepted it.

Cowutopia just wants us to return back to when film had intermissions.

Sure. Sometimes I need to pee and get my free popcorn refill, though with a bunch of these 2+ hour insubstantial films there are lots of opportunties to do that shit during poopy sequences.

[Fe 26]

And in the comics, if Superman even got near krytonite, he was immediately hit with pain and lost all of his powers, right? I mean, he could feel it when he got within 100 feet of it, it caused him physical pain. But when he touched down on Luthor island at the end, he didn't even notice that it was a fucking KRYPTONITE ISLAND. And as Regus said, he not only doesn't sense that it's made of krytonite until someone tries to punch him and he acts like a little girl, he somehow picks it up and tosses into outer space. Lex Luthor slaps him around like a redheaded stepchild while he's on the top, but when he's on the bottom, he has the strength of a gorilla that has the strength of 10,000 gorillas. Must have been pretty concentrated on the top.

But yeah, besides that, it pretty much ruled.

I assumed that he dug under the stuff and had a layer of rock and dirt between him and the kryptonite. It wasn't until the very end did enough of that rock fall away that he was close to the kryptonite again.

But thats just my take on it.

[Rem]

1) because it was funny
2) Gotham and Metropalis are not real cities, meaning the geography of the magical comicbook world is not like our own.

Bah humbug

[Cafeman]

I assumed that he dug under the stuff and had a layer of rock and dirt between him and the kryptonite. It wasn't until the very end did enough of that rock fall away that he was close to the kryptonite again. But thats just my take on it.

That was my take too. Once Superman hit outer space, some of the Kryptonite was starting to poke through, weakening him. Which is why he almost died, since a fall from anywhere wouldn't hurt a full-powered Superman. Then again, a thrown bus hurt him in S2.

Still, I was confused how New Krypton Isle caused Superman to lose his powers but not feel any pain. In the original film, which Superman Returns is a semi-sequel, it made him pretty much collapse as soon as the lead shielding box was opened. Likewise on Smallville -- Clark experiences nausea. But again, Luthor made the comment that the crystal takes the organic chemistry of the matter around it as it grows into the structure, so maybe it was semi-changed Kryptonite here. If so the film didn't explain it well enough.