Superman Returns

[Drewbacca]

I've talked to a lot of people who have seen this movie and have yet to meet anyone who didnt like it. Except here at TNL.

One of my friends went to see it the other day and she said that she heard a couple of punk "Eminem-wanna-be's" crying about how lame and sucky the movie was afterwards. So I can see there being a demographic of dumb kids who think Supes isnt angsty enough or not cool because he doesnt have claws coming out of his knuckles, but fuck them. I dont want them watching Superman Returns in the same theater as me. They can go look cool by watching Fast and the Furious 3 if they want to.

Yes, because the only reason someone doesn't like the movies you do is because they're dramatically different and hang out in crowd you perceive as being inferior. That's ridiculous man.

Or he's just an idiot. And Land of the Dead isn't just about zombies getting blown apart.

Actually land of the dead, like most genre movies, had deeper subtleties than just beind about zombies. A group of fairly rich people being cut off from the rest of the world?

Say what you will about Ebert but in his reviews he explains what he was thinking and suggests movies are worth less or more. He's also a comparative reviewer, which means if a car movie came out and scored a 2, and this movie came out a week later and was a bit better but not all that nifty it could score a 2.5 or 3. It doesn't mean it's the cats meow of a movie, it means it's a quality representation of what else is on the market in that category. Which is why star scores don't mean that much in an Ebert review and why he doesn't give a shit about people who complain about it.

Spike Lee cut him up about about him being lax with the review scores and Ebert practically publically humiliated him with his response.

[Rem]

Fine replace land of the dead with any alien rip off of your chosing, my point still stands.

[Scourge]

I thought the overall story was poor, it was bassicaly 95% of the superman stories out there cept now Lois had a kid. I mean honestly we have seen enough superman kryptonite stories, I would have loved it if they left kryptonite out of this one. Seriously could they not have thought of anything new or fresh, Luthor makes an Island out of kryptonite, I would bet money that in the 50s or 60s some one did this story. There was a overall lack of action in the movie as well, which as much as I love Luthor would have rather seen another villian than him.

The first 30 minutes were good (other than routh's horrible acting when talking to Ma kent) and then the next 2 hours just seemed to drag on for ever and a day. There wasn't a whole lot of dialoug in the movie so I really dont know how they filled those 2 1/2 hours. Routh did ok in the role not great but OK, Kate on the other hand was horrible, they totally cast Lois wrong, there also seemed to be no chemistry at all between Routh and Lois. I think overall my friend put it best when he said the potential was there to make a great Superman movie, and this ended up being just ok.

Like I said there were somethings I felt the movie did really right, the whole catching the plane thing in the beging, the saving of parker posies character, the catching of the daily planet orb. Pretty much most of the uses of his powers, they really seemed to do that well. It was the story around all that, that was just far to shallow. They really did fuck up lois' character as well, I can't state that enough.

Yep, I mostly agree with all this except that I don't think the bad stuff you pointed out was as bad as you felt it was. But you made all the exact points I made, you're just harder on the movie than I was. Despite its shortcomings I thought it was pretty enjoyable.

Oh, I forgot to mention in my first post that I really loved the part when Superman is flying Lois around romantically and he says something like, "I'm sorry I left you Lois." Then follows that up with "I'll take you back now." I thought that was nifty since he was saying he'd take her back home now, but did a bit of a double entendre. Yeah, I'm a sap.

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Quit being a trolling idiot. For one, the economy is not as strong as it was when Spider-man one or two came out, I don't care about statistics, the cost of gas is going to affect the movie going lay-person and their family more than other bullshit factors.
Two, DVD is becoming the preferred movie watching experience for most people, what with theaters being overpriced and filled with asshole patrons.
And three the movie made 106 million dollars in one week. Considering it made back half of it's budget in one week (and that's the half that actually went into production, not the half blown on Tim Burton and spiders, the most dangerous killers in the insect kingdom.) and it hasn't even released worldwide yet, the movie is hardly a failure and there will definitely be a sequel. So shut up and go shill Spider-man 3 in that thread you dickweed.

P.S. Superman > all other superheros ever.
P.P.S. This movie was awesome, and I will be going to see it in IMAX 3D the day after I get back to the US.

SO how much did gas prices jump between X3 and SR

It's not really a matter of people not wanting or needing Superman. It's a matter of the studio being fucking idiots and spending too much money on a movie in hopes that it will somehow draw crowds. Spending 250 million (WTF?) on a movie is ridiculous and hardly the drawing point for crowd studios seem to think it is. It didn't work well for King Kong and it's not working for Superman, although King Kong was a fucking awesome movie (still haven't seen this).

I think 100mil. included all the previous attempts to rejuvenate the franchise.

[Jester]

SO how much did gas prices jump between X3 and SR


I think 100mil. included all the previous attempts to rejuvenate the franchise.

How well is X3 doing now? It might as well be on DVD because it's made all the money it's going to make in the theatre.

SSX, Episode 3 did well because it was Star Wars and it didn't totally suck. King Kong did well because of positive word of mouth after having a meek 9 million opening weekend.

Superman is at 112 million and climbing and still not out worldwide. Yep that's a commercial failure right there. You want to keep trolling and playing Marvel movies versus DC movies go ahead, even if every Marvel movie made more money than Superman Returns it still doesn't make Superman Returns the financial calamity you all are claiming. So everyone please take your stupid need to measure Summer Hollywood box office penis sizes to another thread, or better yet another forum.

Andrew, RoboBlow me, cracka.

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X3 broke a damn record. SR has ben a borderline bomb depending on how you see it.

[Vasteel]

I have just watched this film. Conclusion: Doodoo.

I will say I was impressed by how well it kept the spirit and feel of the older films though.

[Jester]

X3 broke a damn record. SR has ben a borderline bomb depending on how you see it.

Yes if you see it realistically and have any concept of numbers you realize that it nowhere near a bomb, but if you see it through the illogical eyes of fanboy hatred then you're right it's a borderline bomb.

What record did x3 break anyway? http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=x3.htm While you're there looking it up feel free to sign up for their forum.

[Drewbacca]

How well is X3 doing now? It might as well be on DVD because it's made all the money it's going to make in the theatre.

SSX, Episode 3 did well because it was Star Wars and it didn't totally suck. King Kong did well because of positive word of mouth after having a meek 9 million opening weekend.

Superman is at 112 million and climbing and still not out worldwide. Yep that's a commercial failure right there. You want to keep trolling and playing Marvel movies versus DC movies go ahead, even if every Marvel movie made more money than Superman Returns it still doesn't make Superman Returns the financial calamity you all are claiming. So everyone please take your stupid need to measure Summer Hollywood box office penis sizes to another thread, or better yet another forum.

Andrew, RoboBlow me, cracka.

I feel sad for you knowing your life is so empty in substance you feel you have to physically and mentally anguish over small, insignificant discussions on a video game message forum.

Also, LOL @ the thought of a 9 million dollar open for King Kong. Even if it did open that soft I still wouldn't care because, and get this (write it down), it's just a movie I have no affiliation with other than buying a ticket and enjoying and I am not a consumer whore.

[Nash]

You guys need to stop comparing Superman Returns and X-Men 3. X-Men 3 rode X-Men 2's success wave that opening weekend. When people realized it sucked, it dropped like 70% the following weekend. The only slightly fair comparison would be to Spiderman (the first movie) and Batman Begins, since both movies had a relatively fresh start. But even then, Spiderman had the advantage of never having been released on the big screen before, which peaked a lot of people's curiosity as to how it would turn out.