New Maps = Hot Sex

[Joust Williams]

I disagree, I can use voice in a match if everyone else uses it (and people in clans/tourneys do), and so what? What makes vehicles the be-all of quality? Serious Sam Next for console has vehicles and it sure isn't as good. Quake has more strengths that I think are important.

[g0zen]

I disagree, I can use voice in a match if everyone else uses it (and people in clans/tourneys do), and so what? What makes vehicles the be-all of quality? Serious Sam Next for console has vehicles and it sure isn't as good. Quake has more strengths that I think are important.

Voice communication is a revolution in FPS gaming. Quake 3 is way behind and even with third-party programs, like you said only other people using them can voice chat. The rest have to stop doing whatever they're doing to type out sometimes important things like enemy locations, etc. You can say whatever you want, it is an undeniable that voice communciation is important in a good FPS game.

Your comparison of Serious Sam's vehicles to HALO's shows just how ignorant you are on this subject.

And, if people's opinions are the sole indicator here, HALO has more strengths that I think are important.

[Joust Williams]

"Voice communication is a revolution in FPS gaming."
I was using it years ago in every match, every scrimmage, and that made up almost all of my time with the games. So what are you trying to tell me?

"The rest have to stop doing whatever they're doing to type out sometimes important things like enemy locations, etc."
Great, so if to enjoy the game I have to play nothing but pickup games against people, maybe you have a point. Plus, there are very eeasy scripts anyway, so I dunno.

"Your comparison of Serious Sam's vehicles to HALO's shows just how ignorant you are on this subject."
No, I just don't get up and go WEEEE when the word "vehicles" comes up.

"And, if people's opinions are the sole indicator here, HALO has more strengths that I think are important."
To them. They're entitled to their opinion.

[Tain]

I think Quake 3 has better map design than Halo 2, and pointing out vehicles as something that makes Halo 2 better is pretty damn crazy. Anybody who enjoyed Quake 3 bitched when it was announced that Quake 4 will have vehicles, and for good reason. Voice communication helps, but it's nowhere near as vital in Q3 as it is in most other FPSes.

It just isn't a team-based, objective-based FPS. Or, in other words, it's nothing like Halo 2.

[Brand X]

I think it really has finally come to the point where FPS's should be catagorized into smaller catagories. There are way too many different FPS games that play in completely different ways to catagorize them now under one simple term FPS. 3rd person shooters and action games have been in different classifications for years now, there really is no reason that FPS's should be any different. Yes they all have the same perspective of play, but no way in hell do they play anything like their counterparts.

[g0zen]

It just isn't a team-based, objective-based FPS. Or, in other words, it's nothing like Halo 2.

So, then it isn't better. It's just different. Which is the entire point. PC FPSs aren't better because they're different, they're just different. There is nothing about them that makes them immediately superior. Certainly, there are things that make individuals like one more than another, and the same goes for the games themselves regardless of platform. It's this whole argument that somehow PC FPSs are just better by virtue of being on PC I think is bullshit.

[Joust Williams]

There's nothing about ANYTHING that makes it immediately superior, except if you quantify things. Doesn't stop you from saying "this is better". That's why this WHOLE thing is opinion.

[dave is ok]

Holy shit 12 hours and counting, keep it up!

[Changeling]

I would like to introduce you to Xfire, Ventrilo and Steam.
Thier total cost? : $0 a month.

Thanx , Toxic
BTW, You can add me to your xfire list my name is: Changeling on that as well. Perhaps we can play some real FPS's. What's your name on xfire?

Such anger! I apologize on behalf of Halo 2 for being a fun game. It didn't mean to upset any of you in any way, but sometimes things like this just happen. I promise that it had nothing to do with the lacklustre sales of superior PC titles such as Mortyr 2.

Also, Opaque kicked my ass on the new maps a couple of days ago. I will have my revenge.

They actuall made a Mortyr 2? OMG!! The first one was horrible!

Hey man, you didnt answer my question. In your opinion, what *is* the greatest multiplayer FPS ever?

Shogo is the greatest multiplayer FPS ever. TONS of people are still playing it to this day. The team fortress mod for it is killer!!

Shogo beats the pants off of every game mentioned in this thread.

MOTHERFUCKING WORD!!!

[Brand X]

Shogo is the greatest multiplayer FPS ever. TONS of people are still playing it to this day. The team fortress mod for it is killer!!

All this mention of Shogo is making me want to play it again. I'm definately going to need to track down a copy of this game again, because it'sa too sexy.