do you think Sony is evil?

[amerlop]

The emphasis of 3d over 2D was a mistake of the entire industry, not just Sony (if you can call it a mistake since the industry is more lucrative than it has ever been). Sony really didn't do all that much. I just think that they are associated with the death of the hobby since it's release coincided with the mainstream boom.

Really though,we all sound like all those actors and producers in the 20's and 30's who lamented the death of silent films as the "talkies" got more popular (myself included)

[Yoshi]

Originally posted by amerlop
Really though,we all sound like all those actors and producers in the 20's and 30's who lamented the death of silent films as the "talkies" got more popular (myself included)

If keeping them silent would have kept Ben Affleck off the silver screen, then they were right...

[Wilykat]

The emphasis of 3d over 2D was a mistake of the entire industry, not just Sony (if you can call it a mistake since the industry is more lucrative than it has ever been). Sony really didn't do all that much. I just think that they are associated with the death of the hobby since it's release coincided with the mainstream boom.

Good point. The move to push 3D gaming over 2D was something that happened across the industry as a whole. Blaming Sony for the entire "death" of 2D is merely fingerpointing.

To elaborate on Sony's push to drive gaming into the mainstream; Sony is doing what every leading console developer has done in the past, something which is good for their business interests. In the NES days, Nintendo really tried to push the hobby of gaming further into the mainstream spotlight. All the countless TV shows, cartoons, product tie-ins, and cereals that Nintendo stamped their name and franchises all over was the real beginning of the push to put gaming in the forefront of youth entertainment.

Once Sega got a good slice of the marketshare in the US with the Genesis, you don't think characters like Sonic were created because they had the potential for mainstream appeal? Sega did everything they could in the Genesis days to make gaming as "cool" to teenagers as possible, with their IN-YOUR-FACE SEGA! ads, and games with heavy mass appeal.

Many of the games we now regard as "hardcore" were ones that were originally designed to appeal to the masses. All Sony did was up the ante with the release of their system. The entire gaming industry has been moving from niche appeal to mainstream success since the Atari 2600.

[mollipen]

Originally posted by xS
Do you? most people think of sony as evil , and that they killed off 2D by restricting the releases of 2D games. I remember that they also had restricted RPG's at one time.....yet the system had loads of good RPG's.

And does ANYONE who believes those things, I dunno, have ANYTHING to back up those two statements? Other than "fanboy knowledge," that is.

[mollipen]

Originally posted by Chibi Nappa
Sony is evil as the day is long. I've gone on record several times saying that their hobby-killing PS1 is pure mass market evil incarnated in a little grey box.

Yet some of the most amazing niche titles that America has ever seen have come to us thanks to the PSX, and it was also that system that hosted the true breakthrough of Japanese-style RPGs in America.

[NeoZeedeater]

I don't want to speak for xS but there definitely was mention in Gamefan in 1995 that Sony wasn't too keen on the domestic release of RPG's for the Playstation. I don't know whether that is true or not but it's definitely a source people get that info from.

Not like it really matters since Suikoden came out domestically a relatively short period of time after the PS came out. If Sony ever was anti-RPG, it was for a very short period of time.

[mollipen]

Originally posted by NeoZeedeater
I don't want to speak for xS but there definitely was mention in Gamefan in 1995 that Sony wasn't too keen on the domestic release of RPG's for the Playstation. I don't know whether that is true or not but it's definitely a source people get that info from.

And as somebody who WORKED for GameFan, you can trust me when I tell you to take anything you ever heard newswise from GameFan, ESPECIALLY from that era, with a grain of salt. =^) Especially when the guy who was doing the news was one of the biggest Nintendo fanboys you'll ever meet.

[xS]

Originally posted by shidoshi


And does ANYONE who believes those things, I dunno, have ANYTHING to back up those two statements? Other than "fanboy knowledge," that is.

Your right....there isnt any proof that I get my hands on.....you probably know better as youve been writting for quie a while .

[NeoZeedeater]

Another thing I find ironic about the anti Sony/anti-3d crowd is that they forget that of all three machines- Saturn, PS, and N64, only the PS had a 2d handdrawn game at launch.

[xS]

Actually I think the psx is the best system of all time.But theres all this hate on these boards , so I just wondering about it.......