Need help selecting portable mp3 player

**Rich** · 13 Jul 2005, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by Six

I just wanted to reply to a few people at once with cut a paste

Just saying that any amount of compression, err, I mean lossless compression but that's only half the bitrate (so it may be free but it's not really lossless, right?) is still less than the original. And therefore sucks. Hell, even CDs are showing their age. We need a new format. And a deal from the record companies to get the new stuff at cost if we own the old CD. As if.

Did you get a prize, Rich?

Lossless compression doesn't get rid of any content--it's the equivalent of zipping up a file with winzip or winrar.

**Mr-K** · 13 Jul 2005, 05:42 PM

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= The way to go

**Diff-chan** · 13 Jul 2005, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by Six

Just saying that any amount of compression, err, I mean lossless compression but that's only half the bitrate (so it may be free but it's not really lossless, right?) is still less than the original. And therefore sucks. Hell, even CDs are showing their age. We need a new format. And a deal from the record companies to get the new stuff at cost if we own the old CD. As if.

Just the term LOSSLESS (think of it, LOSS LESS) should clue you in to the fact that it doesnt throw info out. You can turn it back into a WAV and burn it onto a CD and it will sound exactly the same as the CD does.

The CD format has its flaws, yes, but thats not relevant to the discussion.

**Fe 26** · 13 Jul 2005, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by diffusionx

The CD format has its flaws, yes, but thats not relevant to the discussion.

Damn you, and I was going to point that out.

-1 for IronPlant getting a chance to talk about something he actually knows about.

**SpoDaddy** · 14 Jul 2005, 04:00 AM

I recently picked up a Creative Zen Touch 40 gb player and I love it, it was $330 at best buy. I looked at the Creative Zen Xtra also, it's identical aside from the touch strip and you can get the 60 gb model for under 300 bucks! Definately the way to go.

**Rich** · 14 Jul 2005, 04:04 AM

Originally Posted by SpoDaddy

I recently picked up a Creative Zen Touch 40 gb player and I love it, it was $330 at best buy. I looked at the Creative Zen Xtra also, it's identical aside from the touch strip and you can get the 60 gb model for under 300 bucks! Definately the way to go.

Not it's not. My HDD just crashed. Piece of shit. I'm selling mine after I get it fixed (thank god for 3year warranty) in favor for a delphi)

**Josh** · 14 Jul 2005, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by Six

We need a new format.

DVD audio. Duh.

We will all have 6.1 systems in our cars. The future is hot and sexy.

**Mykozo** · 14 Jul 2005, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by Josh

DVD audio. Duh.

We will all have 6.1 systems in our cars. The future is hot and sexy.

Yes, and for anyone that hasn't experienced DVD audio (96/24) or higher resolutions (Pro-Tools HD and other high-end recording rigs go up to 192/32 bit floating point) it's just awesome. It really is a big difference.