Capcom: Street Fighter 4 is in the works.

[Dipstick]

But look at the type of fighters that I think are fun to play. They are both totally different from each other. Each has a fighting engine that is fun to play. If Capcom can create another Street Fighter that's fun to play, I'd play it. The main point of a game isn't for it to be 2D or 3D, it's to be FUN. Why would I continue to play a game that is complete shit and a hassle to play?

That is now what he is killing you for. It is for statements like this:

Marvel vs. Capcom 2 and Street Fighter Alpha 3 is as good as Street Fighter (or any other fighting game) will ever get.

That is bullshit, but too many morons in the core fighting game community believe it to be true. cka is so on-point here it is sick.

SRK is full of idiots.

-Dippy

[cka]

it sounds to me (at least from the way you phrased it) that you don't put enough time into a game to come to a definitive conclusion on if you like it or not. Your post came off looking like "yeah I played those games for about ten minutes a peice, they aren't all that fun cause I had no idea what the fuck I was doing".

and hey, you said it yourself:

Marvel vs. Capcom 2 and Street Fighter Alpha 3 is as good as Street Fighter (or any other fighting game) will ever get.

clearly you've put a good amount of time into those two, but how much time have you spent with the others (sans SC, because that game can be mashed like potatoes and still be fun)

[Razor Ramon]

So it's totally ridiculous to believe that MvC2 and A3 have the best and most enjoyable fighting engines?

EDIT:

With the majority of fighters I try out, I give it a good week. The only game that never got more than a day's play from me is VF4. I hated the game. I've played Tekken on and off since 3 and that's because I have friends that love it. I learn enough to play competitively but not to a huge extent. Same goes with CvS2. I learned enough to be good in A-Groove and how to Roll Cancel, but I still hate the game.

So when I say I dislike a game, it's not like I play it for 5 minutes and stop. I actually try. Some games I continue to play just because I find people to play in them. MvC2 and A3 just seem as the most enjoyable fighters. They have tons of ways to play, good character selection, and simple to pick up yet hard to master.

[Dipstick]

So it's totally ridiculous to believe that MvC2 and A3 have the best and most enjoyable fighting engines?

Yes.

All smarmyness aside, it is the absolute refusal by a lot of people in the community to learn something different that drives me nuts. They are afraid they will get derailed from their currently learnt tech. and will get face-raped by top-players while they are learning the engine... or something. So you then get crap like CFE (horray).

Saying 'I enjoy A3 or MvC2 the most of any FG released today' is one thing. Saying that it will never get better is something else, and absolutely stupid -- yet a lot of people believe this.

-Dippy

[Taito]

edit again: LOL HARD if they're looking for ideas on SHORYUKEN.COM of all sites. I'm sorry but no good can come of using that place as a thinktank for your new game.

http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86720

[cka]

I think VF has the best, and possibly one of the most enjoyable fighting engines out there, but you'll disagree with me. Hell, I think FIGHTING VIPERS has an enjoyable fighting engine but I know of maybe MAYBE 7 or 8 people on the ENTIRE INTERNET that would agree with me. Just because I think those games have good engines and gameplay doesn't mean I can run around posting "vf rules sf drools cause it has best engines for gameplay lol" and then calling the opinion card when I get called out on it. Please, let's not turn THIS discussion into THAT discussion. Nobody likes to travel down that road.

(ps: A3 is full of shitty hit detection and broken isms (lol v) that make it a tedious chore to play, and I will admit I haven't put a whole lot of time into MvC2 aside from a few hours but it really came off (from an initial standpoint) as sloppy. lol)

http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86720

my brain it just exploded

edit: ITS FIFTEEN FUCKING PAGES WHAT IN THE HELL

[Yoshi]

cka is dead on here. It all comes down to this. There is a difference between your favorite and the best, especially when you have shit taste.

[lithium]

Marvel vs. Capcom 2 and Street Fighter Alpha 3 is as good as Street Fighter (or any other fighting game) will ever get.

SFA3 isn't too far off from SFA1 for worst Street Fighter ever made.

-- horrible hit boxes. Some hit boxes are so fucked up it's just ridiculous
-- v-ism, woohoo! 50% unrecoverable block damage that my grandma could do!
-- unbalanced as all get out
-- crouch cancel infinites that can only be performed by player one
-- sloppy as can be home ports

but seriously, v-ism broke this game so badly it just plain wasn't fun at all to play. It's definitely my least favorite SF ever.

MvC2, despite its flaws, is an excellent game.

[MarkRyan]

My favorite Street Fighter is Hyper Fighting--hasn't gotten better yet >:è

Also, I missed where it was confirmed that Capcom USA got hold of the Street Fighter rights. I remember StriderKyo opened a thread here that pointed to some guy's blog where he said it, but it was taken down and I never read official confirmation. Is it 100% true?

I don't think a 3D Street Fighter will ever be as good as the 2D games. It can be totally different and good in its own right, but I don't think it's possible for a 3D Street Fighter to take the classic formula and apply it to a better game. And what a waste of art talent it would be to take Udon and put their stuff on polygons.

[avatar]

And, well, that's it.
I'm scared.

...I mean, ComicCon? Why ComicCon?

Are you sure you didn't mistake it with SF2 HyperTurbo:To the Extreme?