Older PC games?

[Frogacuda]

Acctually ROTT had a lot of things that other engines could not do at the time

Name 1.

and I believe they DID have the rights to do the project but they were pulled a few months after the dev process started...

You are incorrect. They never had the rights, no deal was ever inked, but believed they could get them.

OH, and it did sell several hundred thousand copies

The shareware version doesn't count. It most certainly did not sell that much of the full retail/registered version.

According to the book Masters of Doom, Hall was fired from id if that's who you're referring to.

Interesting. At the time he said he resigned because he felt the direction they were moving in was violent and adolecent, or something to that extent, which is exactly the same reason he gave some years later when he left apogee.

[Joust Williams]

Dynamic light sources for one. You're misinformed on so many other things it's not funny. Read something for once.

[YellerDog]

LOL. EVERYBODY'S FUCKING WRONG!!!

[Frogacuda]

Dynamic light sources for one. You're misinformed on so many other things it's not funny. Read something for once.

It didn't have lighting at all. It was a crude raycasting engine based on the Wolf3D source. Are we talking about the same game? OR are you talking about the source ports or what? It could not do diagonal walls, different floor heights, or any of the other features that defined that generation of FPS.

And you're calling me misinformed...

[Joust Williams]

What does that have to do with "it did other things engines at the time could not"? That doesn't equate to "it was better".

http://www.3drealms.com/stuff/rottsourcereadme.txt

Hey, it's the founder of the company that developed the game versus Frogacuda. Who will win????

[Bacon McShig]

Rise of the Triad holds the secret to curing AIDS.

pls believe.

[YellerDog]

http://www.classicgaming.com/rott/hell/

Huh.

http://www.3drealms.com/rott/originalspec.html

[Frogacuda]

What does that have to do with "it did other things engines at the time could not"? That doesn't equate to "it was better".

http://www.3drealms.com/stuff/rottsourcereadme.txt

Hey, it's the founder of the company that developed the game versus Frogacuda. Who will win????

Are you fucking retarded, or did you not even read the text file you just linked which basically backs up everything that I said and does nothing to substantiate your claim that it had dynamic lighting (somehow, even though it had no polygons)? In fact he basically calls the technology shit...

[Joust Williams]

Light sources (as in, you could shoot out a light, and it would go dark). Everything else you said was total garbage. The link was to show you that the rest of your information came from your ass.

No one (not I, anyway) said the engine was better. I said "it did things other engines did not at the time"...and if you did any research at all, you'd see that as well.

[Frogacuda]

Light sources. Everything else you said was total garbage. THe link was to show you that the rest of your information came from your ass.

It came from what I read at the time which was basically that they had an informal agreement, never secured the rights, never inked a deal, and when id saw what they had come up with, they wanted it ended. That's not far from what they said in that account you linked, but obviously with a more positive spin.

No one (not I, anyway), said the engine was better. I said "it did things other engines did not at the time"...and if you did any research at all, you'd see that as well.

It really didn't though. It might have had a few new gameplay features (most notably the stupid platforming elements), but nothing on a technology level that hadn't been done