TNL Movie: Old Boy

[animegirl]

The selling point and the reason everyone likes it is because the octopus tentacles will start suctioning onto your mouth and throat, and it feels awesome.

Woah. I cannot imagine that feeling good, but it sounds interesting.

[Dolemite]

I'm just really into sea life, and octopi are my favorite. The octopus is one of the most intelligent creatures of the sea, and they actually possess emotions, personalities, and problem-solving abilities. Were you aware of that?



I have no desire to watch one suffer so some asian asshole can make some movie that's probably as shitty as every other modern asian live-action movie that isn't kung-fu.

lol, don't be such a pussy, just close your eyes if it bothers you that much. You are doing yourself a massive disservice by not seeing this excellent movie.

Having some respect for life is being a pussy? Don't be a fucking douche.

Keep in mind, I'm not a vegetarian or anything. I don't throw red paint at rich cunts wearing fur coats. But I don't support sport hunting and I certainly don't support killing living creatures on film for "entertainment."

It's a common asian dish. (maybe not "common", but it's not like he just picks up an octopus on the beach)

He orders the actual dish and eats it.

To me, it wasn't that disgusting and made perfect sense in whole scheme of things.

Now Cannibal Holocaust, the animal-eating in that was ridiculous and grusome.

I'm not about to present myself as an expert on Japanese culture, but I can't believe that ordering a LIVE octopus in Japan is the equivalent of ordering a burger and fries here (although, according to omfgninjas below, it IS a popular dish). But the scene was done for shock value, that's all.

And I'm aware of the real-life butchering of giant tortoises and other creatures in Cannibal Holocaust. I find it odd that you'd condem that movie but give the same behavior a pass in Old Boy.

I can understand the vegetarian viewpoint

I'm not a vegetarian or a tree-hugging hippie or any of that bullshit. I loooove meat and fish. I drink gallons of milk.

but I just don't feel the same about the life of an octopus compared to that of an actual human being.

Well, neither do I. Of course I place higher value on the life of a human being. If animal testing can develop a cure for AIDS of cancer, go right the fuck ahead. I can accept bad things befalling animals/whatever if it serves a constructive purpose. Making a movie doesn't count.

I mean, as stated it's a real dish and the people of that culture have no problem with it. If it's any consolation to you, the actor who did it is a fervet Buddhist and said a prayer immediately after he did the scene.

I'm sure the octopus appreciated it. I'd like to think a real, devout Buddhist wouldn't kill, but whatever.

It's a real Asian dish and it's very popular (at least with those willing to try it). The selling point and the reason everyone likes it is because the octopus tentacles will start suctioning onto your mouth and throat, and it feels awesome.

That sounds…disturbing. Keep in mind, the reason it's doing this is out of fear/pain.

I'm not saying that American slaughterhouses are any more humane, or that eating live octopi should be outlawed- go eat whatever you like. That's not what I'm talking about in this thread at all. I'm just talking about a director making the decision to kill a living creature and feature its death in a movie. Not necessary when you have the CG and make-up effects we have today.

Get some culture.

No thanks.

[Josh]

I've been eating dead octopus for 20 years. Never thought to try a live one... I don't think I'd like it too much.

In related news, my dl finally finished, so I hope to watch this movie tonight.

[Dolemite]

I've been eating dead octopus for 20 years. Never thought to try a live one... I don't think I'd like it too much.

I've tried octopus once or twice- it's pretty "eh." Kinda on the rubbery side for me.

[J2d]

I have no desire to watch one suffer so some asian asshole can make some movie that's probably as shitty as every other modern asian live-action movie that isn't kung-fu.

Lol, it's a great movie. Wait for the american version and hope that he eats a banana or something.

[Dolemite]

Wait for the american version and hope that he eats a banana or something.

[Josh]

I've tried octopus once or twice- it's pretty "eh." Kinda on the rubbery side for me.

I didn't like it at first either. It really depends on how its prepared.

[Do You Like Erotic?]

GET SOME CULTURE!!! BLEARGH!!1

[Dolemite]

Looks delightful.

[g0zen]

I'm not a vegetarian or a tree-hugging hippie or any of that bullshit. I loooove meat and fish. I drink gallons of milk.

Oh, then you're just a hypocrite. I mean, if you only believe animals should be killed for necessity, then I hope you're only eating the bare minimum and only when you're at the point of starvation, otherwise you're just as bad. Your argument that because the creature was living at the time doesn't hold up, I mean, just because someone else killed the cow that was made into the burger doesn't mean its death was any less real. In fact, some would say it was worse for that animal because the cow can register feelings of pain, whereas the octopus has a very different nervous system.

The idea that just because they orchestrated the man eating the octopus for the sake of the film is somehow a graven sin compared to a couple of guys going out for hamburgers and shakes when none of them are starving, or a couple having a lobster boiled to death so they can eat it out on a date, or of course the fois gras or viel eaters who're gleefully injesting another animal's tortured demise. I'm sorry, your logic just doesn't hold up.

I also like how you pre-suppose the movie sucks just because of this. I know I can tell you it doesn't, but you won't listen, you won't even try it.