Christians fight for their right to be intolerant of others

[Cowdisease]

No..

Was it called World Heroes?

Yes, this joke is not funny, but dammit, I'm bored at work and I want to run it to the ground.

[Advocate]

ROFLMAO at Dragon!!!

Classic.

Dragon wins this thread.

[YellerDog]

Bill Hicks had a bit about Creationism in the classroom ten years ago.

"God created the earth in six days, and on the seventh he rested. Class dismissed."

[Drewbacca]

I took a class on history of religion in college.

Evolution was not taught there. Because evolution doesn't belong there. It is firm, good science. Its not a belief. I took an intro to biology class that was almost all about evolution. The book of Genesis was not taught there. Now, putting evolution next to Christian Creationism or Scientology Xenu just muddles the issue and makes people think everything is on equal footing. Its not. This may be a hard wake-up call for people who believed their whole life that Genesis was fact but tough shit.

There should be no "teach the controversey" because the controversey is bullshit perpetuated by idiotic Christians that dont know better or, more likely, dont WANT to know better (all the scientific evidence for evolution is out in the open). I see them call it "Darwinism"... pure madness.

The class covered the creation theories (beliefs if you will) in general. Creationism is the belief that we were created by a grand being, evolution is the creationist belief (and remember that although great strides have been made in the theory of evolution it's still just a theory that has only proven small changes in smaller animals, and still has yet to conclusively prove that man evolved from apes, although likely) and that weird intermitten theory that our evolution was spiked by some sort of third party interference.

What you're trying to say is that putting the two close together in a learning environment will somehow cloud and hide the facts about evolution by portraying it as a belief instead of a science. What I'm telling you is the opposite, and putting them side by side and laying out the facts will accent the differences between these creation scenarios and help people better understand the difference between them and that's a good reason why in a purely social english environment evolution belongs there.

[station82o]

They were DWARF KINGS AND DONT YOU FORGET IT!

[Drewbacca]

Was it called World Heroes?

It was called Mortal Kombat or your mom. I don't know what's hot on TNL right now so pick one.

You're clearly backpedalling. You just made the blanket statement of 'taught alongside evolution' knowing what that clearly entails. However, once shown how ridiculous that was you backpedalled to say "No, no, not in science class in a 'social english class'" which is ridiculous.

I'm clearly not. I never argued anything with Advocate, who was making claims like that. The point here is that instead of talking about it you blast the other side. Whether you have a real point to make or just like talking a lot while saying nothing is a good discussion. You should make a thread about it.

[Dolemite]

But evolution belongs with them because it's about where we came from, and it's about exposing kids to each different belief (scientifically proven or belief).

Dude, don't you understand that there's a difference between something that's scientifically proven and something that's simply believed without any evidence whatsoever to back it up? How could you say that evolution belongs in a religion class?

Since Georgia Tech is state run ... she can bark at the moon, she's not going to win.

Quite the opposite, actually. Because it's state-run, she has a case.

So no, I dont think there's much point bring religion (and only one religion at that) into a science class. Two very unrelated topics. I mean lets bring in all creation myths. The vikings have a good one. Something about a slaughtered giant, and the first man and woman coming out of his left and right armpit. The maggots were trolls.. or dwarfs?

Exactly. If you teach the Christian myths, why not the Muslum ones? Or Buddhist, Hindu, or even Satan's?

Actually, I could get behind a class devoted to Satan.

[Drewbacca]

Dude, don't you understand that there's a difference between something that's scientifically proven and something that's simply believed without any evidence whatsoever to back it up? How could you say that evolution belongs in a religion class?

It's not a religion class, it's a social english class about the varying differences in creation. The point was to showcase each belief in its own light. Putting all of these ideas about the creation of man together does nothing but give people all of the information they need to understand it.

[Advocate]

Again I apologize. My original intent was not to cause this massive HUGE ASS arguement.

[Cowutopia]

We should all sing a song and get along.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=PQbQ-AxuQPU