No Burrito for You

**Brisco Bold** · 04 May 2006, 01:50 AM

Originally Posted by MarsKitten

Wow, people are starting to remember facts about me now.

I would have never gotten that answer cuz that spazoid's on block.

On topic: that's cool.

**ChaoofNee** · 04 May 2006, 02:27 AM

Originally Posted by shidoshi

It's like a potato wanting to be a part of the stew, but not being willing to let itself be peeled, cut up, and mixed in with the rest of the ingredients.

**nocturne** · 04 May 2006, 02:34 AM

haha ill take the advice.

**Jester** · 04 May 2006, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by Melf

Why don't you actually try reading what I wrote? Did I mention schooling? I was talking business, and in terms of business, the best foreign firms out there aren't taking away American jobs by doing it in their own language. They're doing it by LEARNING ENGLISH. Your common Japanese person may not know it, but the ones who are dominating the electronics and auto businesses do.

Dude give it up. I've met more Japanese business men than you can imagine and MOST of the bilingual communication is coming from the American business men speaking their jibber jabber to them. The Japanese do not for the most part speak English anymore (and usually less) than those that deal with them speak Japanese. You're full of shit.

Originally Posted by Melf

Asian countries like Japan, China, and Singapore, which are suddenly causing us competition? Gee, and they only did it by learning a second language.

Chinese people also don't speak English well, and if there is any high end Executive deals there is always a fucking translator or two there for both sides. I don't know where you're magical asians can speak English and understand what's going on in both languages but Americans can't nonsense is coming from, but it isn't the real fucking world.

The reason Japan, China, and Singapore have offered any competition is simple. Cheap labor. Japan's economy grew, labor became more expensive, a lot the factories have left Japan to go to Korea, India, and Mexico (hell some even came back to America) and the Japanese economy is in the shitter for almost a decade running. Once China's middle class grows and becomes more proliferant, combined with the cost of shipping, their economy will take a downturn too. America is one of the first and most successful post manufacturing economies in the world and the countries that are growing are because America is buying their cheap shit because it saves Americans money.

**g0zen** · 04 May 2006, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by shidoshi

BS. We, as Americans, have an identity beyond the cultures that we came from. Of course we don't have that one core background that everybody comes from, like many other countries, but from that there certainly has been created a singular American culture. Are you saying that Americans and Canadians are no different? Just because we don't have a core set of beliefs, traditions, or whatnot doesn't mean there is no American "culture.".

What the fuck are YOU saying? What IS American culture if it isn't beliefs, traditions, arts or institutions? There is simply no uniquely American culture that isn't a reflection of regional groups or a mixture of different cultural traditions. Like Diff said, compare the culture of the Southwest to that of New England. Where is the homogeny of culture there? What is this mythical super-American culture that you're talking about?

Originally Posted by shidoshi

I think, in saying that people should come here and become part of our culture, means that when you come here, stop using things to divide yourself from others and instead become part of the bigger whole. Nobody is saying that you have to give up who you are or where you came from, but stop using those things to divide yourself from other Americans while also trying to claim that you're an American yourself..

Again what does this mean? You glossed over the Little Italys and Little Tokyos question diff posed. Why aren't they becoming part of the bigger whole? Why do they get a pass for clinging to their previous culture and unique traditions in their divided pockets while Latinos are expected to drop everything and adopt this imaginary 'American culture' (which really is just code for white suburbanite culture)? What I always thought, and correct me if I'm wrong here, that being an American only means that you believe in the Constitution. That, more than anything, unites us.

Originally Posted by IronPlant

You really need to quit riding my balls about this shit. I'm not your redneck neighbor, your redneck coworker, or those redneck kids that beat you up as a kid. Just because I don't loathe them like you, doesn't make me one of them. Quite taking your personal life problems out on me.

LOL, you're too easy, IP.

**Fe 26** · 04 May 2006, 02:08 PM

You're a stupid horse's ass.

**Melf** · 04 May 2006, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by Jester

Dude give it up. I've met more Japanese business men than you can imagine and MOST of the bilingual communication is coming from the American business men speaking their jibber jabber to them. The Japanese do not for the most part speak English anymore (and usually less) than those that deal with them speak Japanese. You're full of shit.

And this magically means that America is open to second languages? I'm sure you've met the vast majority of foreign businessmen out there, which gives you your unique perspective none of us can share, so I submit to your vast knoweldge.

I don't know where you've been to, but my experiences with American's in Puerto Rico has been that the majority of them want everyone here to speak English, even the Americans who have been living here for decades. They make no effort to learn the local language, which is what the majority of people in this thread have been discussing: people should learn the local language.

**Anal Kaboom** · 04 May 2006, 06:41 PM

Yeah all the fucking immigrants should just up and learn the language. its not like it takes time or anything they should be able to do it in like a week or two right? Better yet lets pull em off the fields and put them in ESL classes. Cause every fucking hispanic i meet doesnt know a lick of english they're all like "fuck the USA we're gonna keep talking mexican and make our lives even harder than they are".