The great wall of Mexico.

[g0zen]

I think really the funniest thing is that SpoDaddy has drunk the Kool-Aid deeply enough that he thinks this wall will be anything more than a massive government boondoggle to funnel money into Halliburton to string up a few hundred miles of chickenwire and very mean looking signs.

I can't wait to see this thing 10 or even 5 years down the road when it's about thirty feet of chainlink fencing in Arizona with those fat fascist minutemen jerking off onto it.

[Vasteel]

The only one not defending the border where the terrorits who caused the worst attacks in U.S. history came from?

Yeah.

But doesn't Texas border more than one state?

[Diff-chan]

http://www.whitehouse.gov/espanol/index.es.html

Why does Bush hate America?

[SpoDaddy]

this thread and your nation is lollerific.

Coming from a frenchman? How's that guest worker program going for ya?

[g0zen]

Coming from a frenchman? How's that guest worker program going for ya?

Brutal, repressive, and anti-immigrant, just like ours is going to be. The French riots should be a wake-up call to the Southwest, if you keep treating all Latin immigrants like criminals and beneath you, they WILL push back. It's a testiment to their own willingness to be Americans that they marched instead of rioted. What was their reward? Fortress America.

[arjue]

Actually I'm in Australia, you know, that country with an exceptionally healthy economy?

[Fe 26]

And lots of cross dressers and 50 different deadly animals.

[SpoDaddy]

G0zen: For the tenth time, this is not about immigration. It's about ILLEGAL immigration. The reason europe is such a nightmare today is because they have a program where you can enter the country, work for dirt wages, have a family, and 3 generations later your family is still not granted citizenship.

You can't have "guest workers", you have to take control of the borders and then allow people to immigrate legally, giving them citizenship.

If they're so willing to be Americans, why didn't they come here legally, respect our laws and pay taxes?

BTW, illegal immigrants are treated like criminals because they ARE criminals.

[g0zen]

G0zen: For the tenth time, this is not about immigration. It's about ILLEGAL immigration.

Why is illegal immigration such a horrid problem now? Yet when Ronald Reagan, the patron saint of moron neocons, granted blanket amnesty he was seen as being visionary!?

The reason europe is such a nightmare today is because they have a program where you can enter the country, work for dirt wages, have a family, and 3 generations later your family is still not granted citizenship.

Which is exactly the kind of program this Congress is working towards.

If they're so willing to be Americans, why didn't they come here legally, respect our laws and pay taxes?

They majority of them do respect the laws AND pay taxes. I want you to show me proof that there's a higher incidence of violent crime amongst illegal immigrants then that of other populations within the US. Don't bother looking because you can't.

[Diff-chan]

How much taxes do you think a guy who makes less than $5 an hour pays?

About $0. Sup EITC.

Except for, of course, sales taxes and other regressive taxes and the like. Which they do pay. And those taxes are local, and neocons always whine about them taking advantage of local services, so, well, even you could put 2 and 2 together.

As for the "they are ILLEGAL immigrants... its a CRIME... because theyre ILLEGAL immigrants"... well I brought that up in the other thread. I believe my words were, "what is legal? Whatever the government says it is. Alberto Gonzales wants to throw people in jail for a decade for downloading a music CD".

Why is illegal immigration such a horrid problem now?

Cause it's an election year, and they need to hold off on gay marriage and flag burning until later in the summer?