Stop getting married at 20 years old.

[Yoshi]

I have never seen a statement that we get anything other than the best healthcare, and I am willing to pay more for that.

[Othello Harrington]

I have never seen a statement that we get anything other than the best healthcare, and I am willing to pay more for that.

Agreed, I can pay for the best, so I want the best. I do not want to wait 4 months for a toothache because every social dentist is booked.

[Razor Ramon]

Sure the hospitals are packed but at least everyone is covered. It's horrible to have people without health insurance who need it in this country. Adding taxes to protect the health of the people seems reasonable to me.

[Yoshi]

Planes leave for Beijing every day. Get on one.

[Othello Harrington]

Agreed, Razor, you know not of what you speak.

Let's say you have cancer, so does 20,000 other people in your city, you're on the wait list pal, hope you don't die before they get to you.

[Razor Ramon]

There are tons of people in this country who cannot afford healthcare. Because of it they go further down into debt for procedures they need treated. If not a full-blown government healthcare system, make a system where government healthcare goes to those who need it.

I just think both of you don't give a shit about those who cannot fend for themselves.

[Diff-chan]

I have never seen a statement that we get anything other than the best healthcare, and I am willing to pay more for that.

The US has the best care for exotic, cutting edge treatments, but for a lot of routine stuff it does not. Infant mortality rates are higher here than other OECD countries, cancer survival rates are not as good, maternal survival is lower, life expectancy, and so forth. Keep in mind that so many people dont have insurance, dont get the care they need, and end up coming in later much sicker and the government picks up the tab anyway. Maybe you would rather they die on the street, I dont know.

There's a good book about this, if you care: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/006...607027?ie=UTF8

I just think both of you don't give a shit about those who cannot fend for themselves.

That's basically the gist of it. Unfortunately you cannot convince people who are brainwashed with delusions of grandeur by the corporation that other people are out there. You cannot convince those people that they should work to better society, even if they themselves have benefitted from it.

[Othello Harrington]

The US has the best care for exotic, cutting edge treatments, but for a lot of routine stuff it does not. Infant mortality rates are higher here than other OECD countries, cancer survival rates are not as good, maternal survival is lower, life expectancy, and so forth. Keep in mind that so many people dont have insurance, dont get the care they need, and end up coming in later much sicker and the government picks up the tab anyway. Maybe you would rather they die on the street, I dont know.

There's a good book about this, if you care: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/006...607027?ie=UTF8

And if you mother bled to death in the emergency room while you waited for some asshole with a "knee injury" looking for painkillers, you're okay with that?

[Yoshi]

I suspect a lot of those stats are more due to our unhealthy lifestyles than the medical care. There's a negative correlation between number of McDonald's and life expectency.

[Othello Harrington]

Oh, and the

Mayo Clinic and Cleveland Clinic say you're wrong. Look them up, that's where the worlds rich go for care.