Third Party Politics

**Fe 26** · 15 Sep 2006, 05:06 PM

no body knows about it but you gozen

**icarusfall** · 15 Sep 2006, 05:19 PM

You really should know about the primary process cheeks. It's not like it's a big secret. I wish it was a bit broader (not sure if that's a word) than it is; IE, narrow it down to like 2-3 guys from all the peeps who go for it. I agree we should have more choices for government after the hardcore politicos get their say in primary voting. The reasoning behind this is simple: No one really votes in primaries. Maybe that's wrong, but it's the way it is. Give the mases more choices than: Shit & Shittier. Maybe a third level, or fouth level removed from 'absolute shit' and I'd find someone I can stomach voting for.

**Diff-chan** · 15 Sep 2006, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by icarusfall

You really should know about the primary process cheeks. It's not like it's a big secret. I wish it was a bit broader (not sure if that's a word) than it is; IE, narrow it down to like 2-3 guys from all the peeps who go for it. I agree we should have more choices for government after the hardcore politicos get their say in primary voting. The reasoning behind this is simple: No one really votes in primaries. Maybe that's wrong, but it's the way it is. Give the mases more choices than: Shit & Shittier. Maybe a third level, or fouth level removed from 'absolute shit' and I'd find someone I can stomach voting for.

See this is where I come in and tell you its time to start doing your job as an American citizen. How can you be surprised when nobody votes except the hardcore nuts and... hardcore nuts are the ones running? I mean, seriously, use your head. People will represent those who vote for them. Vote early, vote often, and hold the official accountable. That's what you have to do. Yea, it's tough. Yea, it's a thankless thing to do, writing LTEs and calling Congressional offices and sending money to the ACLU or RNC or whoever. But it's important and nobody said democracy was free or easy. In fact, quite the opposite.

Elected officials are just the representation of those who are voting. That's all they ever were or will be. It's even in the Federalist (I forget what number), if the people voting are corrupt headcases then a corrupt headcase will be in office. This is not a surprise.

**Fe 26** · 15 Sep 2006, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by Diff-chan

See this is where I come in and tell you its time to start doing your job as an American citizen. How can you be surprised when nobody votes except the hardcore nuts and... hardcore nuts are the ones running? I mean, seriously, use your head. People will represent those who vote for them. Vote early, vote often, and hold the official accountable. That's what you have to do. Yea, it's tough. Yea, it's a thankless thing to do, writing LTEs and calling Congressional offices and sending money to the ACLU or RNC or whoever. But it's important and nobody said democracy was free or easy. In fact, quite the opposite.

Elected officials are just the representation of those who are voting. That's all they ever were or will be. It's even in the Federalist (I forget what number), if the people voting are corrupt headcases then a corrupt headcase will be in office. This is not a surprise.

I wouldn't even know where to start. They don't teach shit about this in school. They dance around the issue a lot but they never come out and say "these are some of the several ways you can play a part in the US." Everything outside of voting for the big guys is ignored in public school.

It would almost seem intentional.

**icarusfall** · 15 Sep 2006, 05:32 PM

I follow you, but sometimes it's literaly impossible to vote. If it's a choice between fired from my job for a no-show, or voting, I'm going to go with what keeps me alive. If your employer had to give you a pass for a few hours to vote in elections, that'd be a real start toward some change in this country. I know this next thing is a bit over-reaching, but... If you follow the logic, who can afford to go and vote? The wealthier (not the super-rich or some conspiracy shit), or the business owners, not the average employee.

**Diff-chan** · 15 Sep 2006, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by buttcheeks

I wouldn't even know where to start. They don't teach shit about this in school. They dance around the issue a lot but they never come out and say "these are some of the several ways you can play a part in the US." Everything outside of voting for the big guys is ignored in public school.

It would almost seem intentional.

Yea, but get involved with College Repubs/Dems (whatever you are), join the PACs that cater to you, etc. Send money to candidates you do like, etc. We're talking about $10-$20 a month here.

If it's a choice between fired from my job for a no-show, or voting, I'm going to go with what keeps me alive.

Polls in most states are open from like, 8-9. I go after work. So do most people.

**Fe 26** · 15 Sep 2006, 05:42 PM

ugh, I really don't want to join Mississippi policlubs. It will be like picking between retards and people with serious head injuries.

Yes I’m misinformed, but I put thought into things. From what exposure I’ve had with these people, they are the opposite. They are informed but they put no thought into what they are reading. It seems like these kids are just puking up shit their parents said back when they lived at home. Just the other day my roommate had one of them in over and he was talking about how stupid it is to learn history, “like it’s so stupid, why do we need to know that stuff.” I do not what to debate anything with people who say things like that.

Originally Posted by Diff-chan

We're talking about $10-$20 a month here.

I do not have 10/20 a month. My average meal is walmart beefaroni, or peanutbutter and honey sandwitches.