Next Gen War

**g0zen** · 26 Nov 2006, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by Detour

Did that site's Wii count just drop a good 200k?

That site sucks.

Yeah I know, there's no way 200,000 people came to their senses and realized the whole thing was based on a gimmick and took them back. I just don't have that kind of faith in humanity.

**SpoDaddy** · 26 Nov 2006, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by Gooch

Also, I would think consumers would be less inclined to make whimsical launch title purchases after shelling out $600+ versus $250+ for the Wii and $400+ for the 360. Consumers generally set a cap amount of what they're willing to spend on leisure and entertainment, especially during a time of rising fuel and heating costs (though these have somewhat settled), a declining housing market, and higher interest rates. The PS3 itself takes up significantly more of that cap than the Wii or 360, leaving less dollars to buy games.

$600 for a videogame system is a whimsical launch purchase in and of itself. I highly doubt that most gamers have a budget cap of exactly $600, preventing them from buying any games with their PS3's. Why would a budget conscious gamer buy a $600 PS3 when there's already a $400 Xbox360 and a $250 Wii available? He wouldn't; the reason PS3 games aren't selling is because gamers aren't buying PS3's, resellers are. If someone's willing to drop over half a grand on a videogame console, what's another $50 to actually have something to play on it?

Sony has applied their bully method of forcing their proprietary media formats down throats to their videogame division. The result is the languishing of their videogame division, just like every other division they've tried this with. PSP memory stick duo and UMD's? PSP is getting trounced and you can't give away UMD movies. PS3 Bluray? PS3 will be Sony's Saturn. The parallels are eerie; unreasonable price, horrible tie-in ratio, 7 processors working in tandem....

**SpoDaddy** · 26 Nov 2006, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by g0zen

Yeah I know, there's no way 200,000 people came to their senses and realized the whole thing was based on a gimmick and took them back. I just don't have that kind of faith in humanity.

The N64's analog stick was called a gimmick too.

**Yoshi** · 26 Nov 2006, 06:39 PM

If the PS3 is Sony's Saturn, then it's library will completely demolish Nintendo's contemporary, so I might buy that argument somewhat.

**Rem** · 26 Nov 2006, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by SpoDaddy

The N64's analog stick was called a gimmick too.

That's really like night and day, people bitched about the analog stick being uncomfortable to be sure. But I don't recall the word gimmick coming up much since for 3-d games it really was better. This was obvious as soon as you started playing a 3-d game, the wii however has not proved itself. And the advantage (if there is one) hasn't shown itself.

**Mzo** · 26 Nov 2006, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by Andrew

lol @ people who buy Core units.

This needed emphasis, lolol

**Drewbacca** · 26 Nov 2006, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by Brisco Bold

The Ajax one?

Are they 20 gigs? I had a hard time getting rid of those too.

Some are 60 too. Yeah, the one in Ajax. I would say Pickering but Pickering sucks.

Originally Posted by g0zen

Yeah I know, there's no way 200,000 people came to their senses and realized the whole thing was based on a gimmick and took them back. I just don't have that kind of faith in humanity.

A really really fucking fun gimmick.

Originally Posted by SpoDaddy

$600 for a videogame system is a whimsical launch purchase in and of itself. I highly doubt that most gamers have a budget cap of exactly $600, preventing them from buying any games with their PS3's. Why would a budget conscious gamer buy a $600 PS3 when there's already a $400 Xbox360 and a $250 Wii available? He wouldn't; the reason PS3 games aren't selling is because gamers aren't buying PS3's, resellers are. If someone's willing to drop over half a grand on a videogame console, what's another $50 to actually have something to play on it?

I think it's way too early to say anything like this in certain terms. I think the Playstation brand name has a lot more recognition with moms and kids right now (in America too) than you're giving them credit for. The problem I see is a whole slew of worthwhile 360 games this year and not many PS3 ones coming until probably Christmas (like the first year of the PS2), which means a lot of good positive word of mouth about the new 360 games while PS3ers are grinding their teeth (and maybe jumping ship).

**SpoDaddy** · 26 Nov 2006, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by Sega saturn x

That's really like night and day, people bitched about the analog stick being uncomfortable to be sure. But I don't recall the word gimmick coming up much since for 3-d games it really was better. This was obvious as soon as you started playing a 3-d game, the wii however has not proved itself. And the advantage (if there is one) hasn't shown itself.

There were plenty of people calling the analog stick a gimmick before they used it though, just like people are calling the Wiimote a gimmick before using it. Wii Bowling proves the utility of the Wiimote and demonstrates it's advantages regarding gameplay, and that's just the pack-in game.