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  1. Quote Originally Posted by g0zen View Post
    Jews are Caucasian. Judaism is NOT A RACE, Semitic peoples are no more a different race than Italians are a different race from Germans. Further proof the whole pseudoscientific 'race' concept is outmoded Victorian garbage.
    You may find Jews that disagree with your statement. To many, it's as much a faith and a racial identity the way that being black or hispanic is. Ask yourself this, if it's "only" a religion, how is that someone is a "1/4 Jewish"? Can someone be a 1/4 Catholic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave is ok View Post
    I'm white trash
    yep desu ^_^

  3. Quote Originally Posted by buttcheeks View Post
    I'm from Mississippi, lols
    Poor thing

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    HA HA

    the internet

  5. Quote Originally Posted by sphere79 View Post
    You may find Jews that disagree with your statement. To many, it's as much a faith and a racial identity the way that being black or hispanic is. Ask yourself this, if it's "only" a religion, how is that someone is a "1/4 Jewish"? Can someone be a 1/4 Catholic?
    You can be of Hebrew ancestory and yet not be a religious Jew, but that doesn't make it a race. It's an ethnicity in that it's tied to a region and a 'tribe' as much as it is to a culture and a religion. However, there's nothing different about one semitic person or the next. So, all the characteristics we associate with 'Jews' are just as prominent with Lebanese, Syrians, Iraqis, Palestinians, etc.
    Time for a change

  6. So is it in ANY way different than being "1/4 black?" Isn't that an ethnicity tied to a region? I know you'll argue "race" is an abstract concept created by man - but if it goes for one group should it go for others too?

  7. Quote Originally Posted by g0zen View Post
    You can be of Hebrew ancestory and yet not be a religious Jew, but that doesn't make it a race. It's an ethnicity in that it's tied to a region and a 'tribe' as much as it is to a culture and a religion. However, there's nothing different about one semitic person or the next. So, all the characteristics we associate with 'Jews' are just as prominent with Lebanese, Syrians, Iraqis, Palestinians, etc.
    Not really, Ashkenazi Jews have a very specific genetic background. It's a race and a religion, Michel Richards race is jew, his religion is catholic.
    Last edited by AstroBlue; 27 Nov 2006 at 03:53 PM.
    Quick zephyrs blow, vexing daft Jim.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by buttcheeks View Post
    I see what you're getting at. I have trouble relating to that feeling. I have a pretty sempathetic personality and can talk to just about anyone about something.

    that is kind of sad though. Sounds kind of lonely.
    One is the loneliest number...



  9. Can't we all just get along?

  10. Quote Originally Posted by sphere79 View Post
    So is it in ANY way different than being "1/4 black?" Isn't that an ethnicity tied to a region? I know you'll argue "race" is an abstract concept created by man - but if it goes for one group should it go for others too?
    It's different in that 'Jew' isn't a race, like I already said. It's essentially a tribal identity and nothing more. As for your the rest of your statements; race IS an illusion created by man. However, even within that outmoded, unscientific view there is a triumvirate of races; Caucasoid, mongoloid, and negroid. Everything else, by that viewpoint, is created strictly by cultural anthropological differences. What the racist scientists of the late 19th and early 20th century failed to realize is that it's ALL created by cultural anthropological differences and tinged with very minor environmental alterations. So, essentially you were wrong even by the criteria of your own world view, regardless of the fact that the entire view itself is wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by AstroBlue View Post
    Not really, Ashkenazi Jews have a very specific genetic background. It's a race and a religion, Michel Richards race is jew, his religion is catholic.
    Show me the Ashkenzai Jew gene. It does not exist. There is no particular genetic code that makes them a different race or species from me.
    Last edited by g0zen; 27 Nov 2006 at 05:34 PM.
    Time for a change

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