Official Wii Thread: Part 3

**Compass** · 04 Dec 2006, 03:22 PM

I agree the component cable thing is a fiasco and suitably enraging. It really irritates me that Nintendo can be so clueless to their demand.

**Finch** · 04 Dec 2006, 03:25 PM

http://www.mission-in-snowdriftland.com/

**Joust Williams** · 04 Dec 2006, 03:30 PM

"I see a system that works referred to as a cheap gimmick and good games referred to as trash, but very little in the way of reasoning as to why. I remain unconcinced as to why I should dislike a system I'm having such a good time with, and endless stupid insults aren't going to be changing my mind any time soon."

You don't have to dislike anything. But I have given you plenty of reasons why I think it's a gimmick or lame. The VC is inferior to XBLA because it lacks any functionality beyond the original game. The fact that Nintendo is PURPOSELY holding the big names back for inevitable "real" game droughts is wack. Granted, the 360 is doing this too, but they have an excuse: the games aren't just roms. Secondly, Nintendo put their flagship game that could have EASILY been done on the Cube on the Wii to spur sales. If you're going to port it to the Wii, make some graphical improvements, please. It's not like they didn't have time to do this. Thirdly, Excite Truck is an abomination. The remote gives you nothing in terms of feedback. It doesn't snap to center like a gamepad or a real wheel, it clearly isn't pushing the Wii, it doesn't have online play (which should have been day freaking one, at least the PS3 could do this). All I see is a mini-game system. Don't get me wrong, mini-games can be fun, but when it dominates your line up, that reeks of quick cash-in. They're easy to develop because you don't have to have a sense of continuity throughout the game or anything. Fourthly, there is NO quality control on the system whatsoever. GT Pro Series and about 6 other games have NO business being on the Wii whatsoever. This is a system that's a) more powerful than the Cube and b) developers know it already. The best advantage to using old hardware is the comfort level for devs right away. We didn't see this; instead, we got stuff that could easily be done on the Cube. Can you think of another time where a new console couldn't even match the previous gen? That's just beyond sad. Even the big hitters coming later can't match the Xbox 1's best.

All of these points clearly point to Nintendo being in it just for the money. Granted, all companies are, but at least they try to hide it. Put it this way...if Infinium DID make a console and it had these problems, you would be laughing. And rightfully so. Nintendo doesn't deserve a pass because you played Mario when you were 4. 3dfx was knocked from their perch when they couldnt keep up. You should demand more. IMHO

**Compass** · 04 Dec 2006, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by Finch

http://www.mission-in-snowdriftland.com/

That's neat. I'm at work so I can't really get into it, but I absolutely adore the advent calendar-format level select.

**Nash** · 04 Dec 2006, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by James

I don't get the Wii hate, honestly. Excite Truck, Trauma Center, and Zelda are all great launch titles, and I'd probably add Rayman to the pile if I'd had a chance at playing it. That's three games more than most consoles manage on day one.

I see a system that works referred to as a cheap gimmick and good games referred to as trash, but very little in the way of reasoning as to why. I remain unconcinced as to why I should dislike a system I'm having such a good time with, and endless stupid insults aren't going to be changing my mind any time soon.

James

No one's trying to convince anyone as to why they shouldn't like the Wii. We're just stating our opinion as to why we don't like it and why we think Nintendo sucks.

As for why I think the system is gimmicky, just read the reviews for any of multi-platform games on the system Marvel Ultimate Alliance, Splinter Cell, etc.). None of them work well with the Wii-mote/nunchuk at all. They're not only afterthoughts, but they're also different for the sake of being different, without being better (they're actually worse). That's certainly a "new" and "different" gaming experience, but it's also a less enjoyable one for me.

Another thing that turns me off about the Wii is that the controller actually limits what you can do with certain games. Take Wii Sports for example. Sure, I can use the Wii-mote as a bat, racket, or whatever, but I can't do anything else in the game. In contrast, I can do so much more in Top Spin with a conventional controller. This actually draws me more into the game than motion-sensor + limited controls. I know Wii Sports is basically a demo of what the system is capable of, and so far, it's telling me that the system is capable of much.

As for the titles you mentioned, Trauma Center, and to an extent, Rayman, are definitely games I'd like to see more of on the Wii. They're specifically developed for the system, and they make creative uses of the controller. But so far, it looks like these type of titles are going to be the exception rather than the norm. I'm not interested in another Nintendo system where my entire library consists of less than five games.

With respect to Twilight Princess, I'm not counting that as a Wii title because it's really a Gamecube title, and I rather play it on the Gamecube. And as for Excitetruck, not only is it not fun, but I don't see the big deal with using the Wii-mote as a steering wheel when I can play better racing games on other systems with a real steering wheel experience. You people act as if Nintendo just invented the steering wheel for video games.

So until I see a lot more games that deliver on Nintendo's promise of a gaming revolution, I'll be playing Splinter Cell on my HDTV (and with better controls).

**RoleTroll** · 04 Dec 2006, 03:52 PM

It'd be nice if the devs would use the classic controller for their ports, instead of slapping on poor controls using the Wiimote.

**James** · 04 Dec 2006, 03:58 PM

GT Pro is shit, and I wouldn't touch the Wii version of Splinter Cell if it was given to me free with a full-body happy-ending massage. I'm counting Zelda as a Wii title because that's the system I'm playing it on, much as I thought of Beyond Good & Evil as a Cube title.

I'm not saying the system isn't having its birthing problems. The lack of Opera, news, and weather channels is stupid and the component cable thing is just plain pathetic, caused by a level of arrogant incompetence to rival anything Sony's shown lately. But, and this is the most important thing, I have three games that are a ton of fun (yes, that includes Excite Truck. Deal with it.) with more on the way. I hope like hell Super Swing Golf is as good as the Wii Sports Golf shows it might be and Wario Ware should be a blast.

Multi-platform games are a mistake for the Wii, plain and simple. The only company getting it right is (god help me for saying this) Electronic Arts, rebuilding their stuff from the ground up rather than shoehorning the controller into games not designed for it.

James

**PKBMax** · 04 Dec 2006, 03:58 PM