Official Wii Thread: Part 3

[Nash]

The Wii isn't at all about multi-platform ports though, that's the thing. The Wii was designed to facilitate games like Trauma Center, great games that couldn't exist on other consoles. All consoles that have value are going to have games and publishers that abuse that value; there's plenty of 360 and PS3 games with gorgeous graphics and awful gameplay, that doesn't make gorgeous graphics a "gimmick".

I know it isn't. However, my concern with the system is that its library will consist mainly of multi-platform ports and only a handful of titles that exploit its potential. Even outside of multi-platform ports, I think there will be lots of Wii-exclusive titles that won't utilize the controller very well. For example, I don't know how Fire Emblem will turn out, but it doesn't look like a game that will greatly benefit from the Wii-mote since it played fine on the Gamecube.

I'm not looking for games with a different control scheme. If a game works with conventional controls, I rather stick with conventional controls. Take Twilight Princess for example. There's nothing more intuitive or better about shaking the controller to swing a sword than pressing a button. It's different, but that's it. I rather just press a button. When I look at the Wii, I want games that offer something that wouldn't necessarily work with conventional controls. Games like Trauma Center are what I'm talking about. But until I see A LOT more of them, I can't justify the system. Like I said in my post, I'm not interested in another Nintendo system with only five good games.

[Joust Williams]

Show me how they take FULL advantage of the wiimote. Freelook is not a revolutionary way to play. Quake and Duke Nukem 3D had no problem with it in 1996.

[PKBMax]

"And I seem to remember XBLA starting out slowly."
It launched with several original games...

The two have a different focus. XBLA is mostly new and arcade stuff, VC is retro console stuff. They are simply different.

"It does look good. And obviously the shitload of reviewers who are giving it perfect, or near-perfect, scores don't really care that it doesn't look better."
I don't give a shit if all they wanted was tired Zelda gameplay.

Have you played it? It certainly doesn't play tired. It's a great game.

"Please explain how to give a wireless handheld conroller force feedback so it kicks back like a steering wheel."
That wasn't my point. The point was that it sucks next to a wheel or even a regular controller.

"The point is that you're judging Nintendo by a different standard than you judge others."
No I'm not...it's almost 2007. Online play should be a requirement. I don't care what system you are.

It doesn't matter what year it is online infrastructure and services take time and enormous resources to build and deploy. If they didn't everyone would have a Xbox Live-like interface and MS would be shit out of luck.

"DOA3 is a better game than Zelda: TP? You lose."
I was talkng graphically. Alhough I would rather play DOA3, but whatever

So you admit you're a graphics whore? That's great. I play games for gameplay, challenge and fun. Graphics come after.

[Manic Miner]

I dont know if these trolls are here to just repeat their bashing or try convincing the ppl enjoying the Wii to hate it.

All I read is a repetition of their opinions.

FFS STOP IT! WE GET THE POINT THAT U HATE THE WII, NOW LEAVE THIS THREAD ALONE!

[Joust Williams]

"The two have a different focus. XBLA is mostly new and arcade stuff, VC is retro console stuff. They are simply different."
Bullshit. A Bomberman came out with no online play. Are you telling me it's more fun without it?


"Have you played it? It certainly doesn't play tired. It's a great game."
I watched someone play it. Seemed boring to me. I doubt the Wiimote pushed it from "yawn" to "I want to play this, even though it looks like the same old shit"...we all spent an hour laughing at it in disbelief (I was laughing at him wasting his money too, that was fun ;p)



"Online infrastructure and services take time and enormous resources to build. If they didn't everyone would have a Xbox Live like interface and MS would be shit out of luck."
Then why wasn't it ready? Live has been out for years.


"So yopu admit you're a graphics whore? That's great. I play games for gameplay, challenge and fun. Graphics come after."
I don't play DOA3. I just meant I'd rather play it than Zelda. I've played Zelda before. I don't want to dedicate 60 hours to playing something I have already beaten.

[Shin Johnpv]

I agree the component cable thing is a fiasco and suitably enraging. It really irritates me that Nintendo can be so clueless to their demand.

What pisses me off is it's only NoA, because the cables (including S-Video and other cables) were available at the Japanese launch in stores. It looks like they are going to be available in stores at the European launch also. So basically only America got fucked over and were going to continue to be fucked over till some time in January. It's horseshit especially since fucking Kaplan of NoA fame said they would be in stores.

[dave is ok]

Joust is right about the online thing, No console should be without a way to play games online. Gamecube had what, 3 online games?

[PKBMax]

"The two have a different focus. XBLA is mostly new and arcade stuff, VC is retro console stuff. They are simply different."
Bullshit. A Bomberman came out with no online play. Are you telling me it's more fun without it?

I have absolutely no clue what that was supposed to mean.

"Have you played it? It certainly doesn't play tired. It's a great game."
I watched someone play it. Seemed boring to me. I doubt the Wiimote pushed it from "yawn" to "I want to play this, even though it looks like the same old shit"...we all spent an hour laughing at it in disbelief (I was laughing at him wasting his money too, that was fun ;p)

Boring = the criticism of five year olds and the mentally challenged.

"Online infrastructure and services take time and enormous resources to build. If they didn't everyone would have a Xbox Live like interface and MS would be shit out of luck."
Then why wasn't it ready? Live has been out for years.

Seriosuly are you retarded? Certainly reading comprehension wasn't your strong suit.

"So yopu admit you're a graphics whore? That's great. I play games for gameplay, challenge and fun. Graphics come after."
I don't play DOA3. I just meant I'd rather play it than Zelda. I've played Zelda before. I don't want to dedicate 60 hours to playing something I have already beaten.

Yeah I know, she kicks high. Just wash the controller before someone else uses it.

[SpoDaddy]

I actually find the auto-centering on Excite Truck to work perfectly every time. I level my hands and the truck drives in a straight line. Simple.

James

Would you recommend Excite Truck as a $50 purchase? I picked up Rayman last night and I've got mixed feelings about it.

The game is hilarious in the way Earthworm Jim was hilarious when you first played it. The graphics are really well done, colorful, pretty (no 480p though, which will hurt in the future). I played the first level before watching Intervention with my g/f, and that first level gave me quite a workout. It involved A) swinging the wiimote over my head like a lasso as quickly as possible to throw a cow on a chain 60 meters, B) pumping the wiimote and nunchuk up and down in an alternating motion as quickly as possible to run a bomb across a level before it exploded, C) tracing the outline of different food items with a sharpie marker before a rabbid devoured it, D) using the Wiimote/nunchuk as drumsticks in a rhythm game to the tune of rabbids singing "girls just wanna have fun", E) a really tight western FPS level on rails in which you fire plungers at rabbids.

I was expecting the game to be a quality, funny party game with more depth than something like Mario Party. It is all those things. The problem is that the game requires some heavy movement to play; after about a half hour everyone's arms were sore from the cow tossing and running levels and we were done with it for the night. I want to own the game because it has great value as something you can break out at gatherings and have fun with, but right now I'd rather have something I can sit back and relax by myself with (or at least play with others without working up a sweat).

I'm going to try to exchange it today for either Monkey Ball or Excite Truck, I haven't decided which yet. All suggestions/opinions welcomed.

[dave is ok]

I'm going to try to exchange it today for either Monkey Ball or Excite Truck, I haven't decided which yet. All suggestions/opinions welcomed.

Exchange it for 50 dollars down on an Xbox 360.