IGN's Top 25 Game Franchises

[Joust Williams]

"Plus Wolfenstein was far more influential than Doom."

Um...no. From the mod community to the mutliplayer to the desire to have ever increasingly powerful systems, Doom trumps Wolfenstein easily.

[sethsez]

"Plus Wolfenstein was far more influential than Doom."

Um...no. From the mod community to the mutliplayer to the desire to have ever increasingly powerful systems, Doom trumps Wolfenstein easily.

It could also be argued that Quake trumps Doom on that front as well.

[Joust Williams]

But one came out before the other...Quake should be on the list anyway. I mean, Virtua Fighter is on there? lawls

[sethsez]

Virtua Fighter is a hugely important franchise, though, as pretty much every 3D fighter since has followed its lead. The genre still has yet to really break from that mold.

And yes, Quake came after Doom. And Doom came after Wolfenstein 3D. And Wolfenstein 3D came after Catacomb 3D. If we're talking about influence and sales, then a very convincing argument could be made for Quake being bigger than Doom.

[Joust Williams]

First person shooters are far more popular and have driven technology far more than 3D fighting games.

[sethsez]

I don't recall debating that. I just think Virtua Fighter does have a place on the list. If something should be replaced it's the Chrono series, which is exactly two games (one of which has its quality pretty heavily debated) and a text adventure side game. There are certainly other entries on that list that are far less deserving of being there than Virtua Fighter.

[SpoDaddy]

Toshinden was the big launch game for PSX, Virtua Fighter was the big Saturn launch game, Tekken Tag sold tons of PS2's (Tekken games in general moved tons of Sony hardware), Soul Calibur was the reason to own Dreamcast at launch; before Halo came along 3D fighters clearly had the lead on consoles (and DOA3 was a big launch game for Xbox as well...) Not nessesarily arguing that 3D fighters are more popular or have driven technology more, my point is just that they've been more important than it at first appears.

[RoleTroll]

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[Bacon McShig]

Since when was Tetris a franchise? It was one good game, with a bunch of bad spin-offs that never captured the fun of the first.

Tetris Attack >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Although, yeah, that's not a "real" Tetris game.

[gamevet]

Tetris Attack >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Tetris

Although, yeah, that's not a "real" Tetris game.

I was waiting for someone to say Tetris 3-D (Virtual Boy). It's the one North American VB game I don't have, but would love to try.