Dragon Quest 9 Official Thread

[Yoshi]

No, it's not about turn based vs semi-realtime vs real time. It's about the broken game design where you combine a genre that is supposed to be about skill with a system that automatically helps you (ie leveling up) so you don't have to use skill.

I see your point, and it is well taken. This is my biggest beef against the "Metroidvanias."

[Frogacuda]

Isn't that twice as true for the classic DQs, though? If a boss is too hard, and you can't win, the solution is never to practice and try a better strategy until you get good at the boss. No, you go level grind until the boss is easy. At least in the Metroidvanias you CAN overcome being underleveled with sheer skill.

[Yoshi]

That's also a valid point. I didn't notice these being posted in the thread yet, so here are some screens.

[burgundy]

Isn't that twice as true for the classic DQs, though? If a boss is too hard, and you can't win, the solution is never to practice and try a better strategy until you get good at the boss. No, you go level grind until the boss is easy. At least in the Metroidvanias you CAN overcome being underleveled with sheer skill.

DQ is nothing but level-grinding. If you take the level-grinding out of DQ you have nothing.

[Frogacuda]

This is why I hate DQ, but also why I hold some hope that this one could be different.

[MechDeus]

DQ is nothing but level-grinding. If you take the level-grinding out of DQ you have nothing.

Which is why Tsubaki's comment is so funny. He lost interest once he heard you would have to control movement while level grinding.

[Bojack]

DQ is nothing but level-grinding. If you take the level-grinding out of DQ you have nothing.

Yeah then it's just walking around for 100 hours.

[Joust Williams]

You described RPG gameplay, pretty much.

[Frogacuda]

You described RPG gameplay, pretty much.

In the same way you could describe a FPS as "walking around and clicking on people until they die"

[MechDeus]

In the same way you could describe a FPS as "walking around and clicking on people until they die"

Diablo is an FPS, you heard it here first.