Are we a bunch of Sony haters?

[dog$]

What does Sony have to gain by denying a game with a fairly dedicated fanbase, other than ill will?

Shelf space and a disassocation of the Playstation brand from games that 95% of this market writes off as kiddie shit.

You gotta figure that Nintendo has quite a few games up its sleeve that haven't been announced yet: F-Zero, Pilot Wings, Kid Icarus?, Punch Out

You're not expecting any of these games to actually exist, are you?

Hope not.

[RoleTroll]

I fail to see how Sony pushing for games from previous generations of hardware to be bundled together means they've been actively working against 2D.

It's a de facto ban on 2D. Not just 2D, but anything that wasn't pushing the hardware so hard that it ran at 10 fps. Forced bundling of Growlanser helped bankrupt WD. Other companies were smarter and took Sony's hoops for what they were, and just abandoned the hardcore audience.

Imagine if a developer could have made a new SNES game and released it simultaneously on GBA/GC/PS2/Xbox. The profits would have been enormous, but Sony and MS would never allow it. Nintendo would have allowed the older tech on GC (Animal Crossing, Zelda Four Swords). Maybe we're past that now with VC/XBLA/PS Store. Sony and MS can guard the graphics on their 360/PS3 games while allowing devs freedom online.

[sethsez]

Shelf space and a disassocation of the Playstation brand from games that 95% of this market writes off as kiddie shit.

So Barbie Horse Adventures: Wild Horse Rescue is fine and doesn't kiddify the brand, but a T-rated fighting game is just too much?

Bullshit. They're not trying to protect the brand from "kiddie shit" by blocking King of Fighters.

[Joust Williams]

They're trying to protect the brand from "shit" by blocking King of Fighters.

[Bacon McShig]

Second verse, same as the first.

Bottom line: Companies have gone on record saying 2D releases were highly scrutinized and outright impeded by Sony. I haven't heard many, if any, reports regarding similar obfuscations by any other hardware publishers post-Saturn. MS had no problems with SNK releasing a number of their titles on Xbox that Sony had blocked from release on PS2, which coincidentally is a console that's seen more shit games than anything since the NES.

[Razor Ramon]

If Pokemon comes out on the Wii as a MMORPG, I will be all over that shit. Make it happen, Nintendo.

[Yoshi]

The "O" in MMORPG virtually guarantees that won't happen.

[dog$]

So Barbie Horse Adventures: Wild Horse Rescue is fine and doesn't kiddify the brand, but [King of Fighters] is just too much?

I don't have to point out which of these has higher brand recognition amongst everyone and ultimately sells more, do I?

[Saint of Killers]

So Working Designs and SNK, among others, were just imagining things when they personally stated that their games were delayed, forced into bundles, or outright cancelled because of Sony's harsh cert process towards 2D games.

Interesting.

Working Designs and SNK had their games delayed, bundled and cancelled because they were shitty, not because they were 2D.

Sony has zero quality standards when it comes to 3D games, and we can all name 100 examples. There is nothing SNK has ever made that is not better than 80% of the PS2's US lineup. It's a bias, not quality control.

SNK has sucked for years, if they were ever really good (I deny it, but whatever). Deal with it.

Forced bundling of Growlanser helped bankrupt WD.

WD being a shit company run by morons helped bankrupt WD.

[youandwhosearmy]

Feel free to show me who picked the Bears and the Colts prior to two weeks ago.

Yeah but you were still wrong.

Because its you.


Hugs and kisses.