Dude you guys are total douches. If you buy a PS3 you won't have any games to buy, that saves you at least $300! So the 60 gig PS3 is actually a better value than the XBox 360 premium!
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Yea but since it you didn't seem to like some of the extra stuff in the 60gig I came up with a more reasonable comparison, and what's shitty about the 20gig version?
Btw, while I guess you could save some money going with batteries you should check out the p&c kit, the extra weight elevated the controller to almost perfection imo.
I'm more of a company making stupid, outlandish and downright arrogant decisions hater. If a company does something stupid they get called on it. 360 got called on the 2 bundles, and Nintendo's been getting called out since the late n64 days. I am not loyal to any corporation or brand because I'm not a whore. So if I see something I don't like about the way they're doing business I'm going to voice that.
Sony's just been in this cascading lameness effect for the past 2 years. It's not like Nintendo doesn't receive its fair share of shit around here.
Last edited by Drewbacca; 28 Jan 2007 at 12:56 PM.
Originally Posted by rezo
I own TVs, VCRs, a DVD player, two cell phones, etc. from Sony. None of that has any relationship to games.
Sony bullied their way into an industry that they didn't understand and didn't care to understand. They succeeded through buying exclusives and Sega and Nintendo somehow making huge mistakes simultaneously in the mid-1990s. Had Sony launched a system in 1990, it would have flopped. They got lucky in 1995. They couldn't anticipate that Nintendo would lack foresight and pick cartridges. They couldn't count on Sega rushing to get the Saturn out the door and making it a mess on which to code games.
They have added absolutely nothing to the industry while they have been in it. Sega and NEC brought disc-based media to consoles. Nintendo has brought many innovations (even if they are credited with far more than reality). Sony just kept throwing money around and benefited almost entirely from third parties that were on the take. Sly Cooper and God of War, which are about the extent of Sony's useful franchises, don't justify their success or even their existence.
I thought Microsoft was going to play the same game when the XBox was announced. However, things like Xbox Live and Achievements have proven that at least Microsoft has some people that "get it." They have evolved the industry, while Sony is being drug along because they feel like they have to.
I was a Sega fan for well over a decade. Sony eliminated them from the hardware market without returning anything of value. I wanted the Saturn to succeed and the PS1 to fail, and now, over a decade later, I was absolutely right in hoping that. All of my suspicions about Sony have panned out. I was wrong about Microsoft, but I was dead on about Sony. I hope the PS3 fails fantastically before anything I want to play is released on it exclusively. I want Sony's wallet-flashing, innovationless bullshit out of my hobby. Microsoft has proven to have a gaming divison, not completely unlike Nintendo and Sega of 1990. Sony only has a cash cow. Thankfully, the utters are dry. Fuck Sony. And none of that has anything to do with the price tag.
Last edited by Yoshi; 28 Jan 2007 at 01:23 PM.
Touché.
Not to mention $1200 dollars on a flat screen hi-def TV, and $2000 dollars on an entire sitting arrangement to play the games. Then also a new fridge to keep your refreshments cold, and of course you don't want your kitchen looking embarrassingly paltry in the design area when your friends come over so a complete renovation is necessary. After all of this the 360 easily outcosts the PS3 at $60,000 dollars to Sony's low $600.
You make some good points here RDM Brian. When you're done pretending you're playing your PS3 instead of lurking on TNL and reading this thread feel free to make more of these razor sharp arguements.
Last edited by Drewbacca; 28 Jan 2007 at 01:40 PM.
Originally Posted by rezo
Just off the top of my head:
Touché is a French term (literally, touched) that is used in fencing to acknowledge the receipt of a valid hit. The person who gets touched calls out "touché".
Other uses
It is also used in conversation or debate to concede a point as true, often in response to a successful counter of one's own logic, as shown in the Mac Advert example. Thus, touché has come to mean a score or a point, often used figuratively in verbal fencing and spoken by the person against whom the point was scored. Merely saying touch is wrong since the correct term would be touched. However, even touched is wrong when the meaning is you win.
(We're all impressed you saw that Apple commercial BTW, but the touché is valid and will not be retracted).
Originally Posted by rezo
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