Sagely Advice

[Frogacuda]

Bill Burr has a great bit about marriage where he calls it a financial contract that you would never sign in a million years if it was over business. It's ridiculously one sided and divorce law in this country is absolutely ridiculous.

Most of the rest of what's said on the site is whatever, but there's precisely no reason why a man should have to keep paying his ex for years even when they don't have kids.

[haohmaru]

Most of the rest of what's said on the site is whatever, but there's precisely no reason why a man should have to keep paying his ex for years even when they don't have kids.

Definitely not in this age of equality and feminism. Becoming accustomed to a lifestyle is no excuse for not getting a job or pursuing a career. If kids are involved, it's different.

[Vasteel]

My girlfriend just caught me reading the article and grew enraged with me. I told her too bad, gender-biased or not (and I do agree with her and Melf that the guy does seem to have some issues with women), it's all fucking true and she knows it. The marriage issue is beginning to become a real pain in the ass.

Women turn sex into a huge mindfuck after being married for a while (most women, not all women, and particularly western women) and will convince themselves that everything else has higher priority over this. Where and when they decide that orgasms simply aren't worth the time or that fucking the old bastard is "duty" and not something that's also for them is beyond me.

You don't even have to be married for this to be true. If you stay with someone long enough this seems to be the fate you are doomed to. The fact is that you will never have hotter sex with a person than the first few times you fuck them, and after that it's downhill.

This is inevitable to a degree, I guess, and I imagine that it's true for women too. But I can't think of a time where I've totally lost interest in someone I'm still with sexually and not wanted to try and maintain that level of intensity. And even if you still keep the sex up, proper blowjobs become a thing of the past when it once seemed she couldn't keep your dick out of her mouth if there was 5 minutes and a modicum of privacy. And everything, like doing the laundry or getting to work early, seems to become a more exciting proposition than sex to her. WTF?

[torgo]

You don't even have to be married for this to be true. If you stay with someone long enough this seems to be the fate you are doomed to.

Yup. Every long term relationship I've had has turned into a "marriage" after a year or so. Which is why I don't understand the whole "when first married you have sex like rabbits", does marriage somehow revive that for a little bit?

[Drewbacca]

Angry brown guys are so awesome.

I'm getting a rock solid pre nup before my marriage and always thought men who didn't were idiots (unless they married rich women). She's taking my last name too, otherwise it's hit the curb honey. And if we get divorced she won't walk away empty handed. It will just be a fair deal for her so she doesn't fuck me over for the rest of my life.

[Yoshi]

Yup. Every long term relationship I've had has turned into a "marriage" after a year or so. Which is why I don't understand the whole "when first married you have sex like rabbits", does marriage somehow revive that for a little bit?

No. Honestly, the only way I could see that happening is if she was under her parents' roof before the marriage, so you didn't have enough opportunity.

[Tones]

I hate the whole marriage ceremony itself. I just dread having to go through it. I think my dream wedding is a nice outdoor cookout type of deal. You know, if the girl invites like 100 people, which seems typical for a middle-class wedding, it'll cost you what, $1000 max to feed them and get them beered up? I've mentioned this to a few girls, including my current girlfriend, and they all got very standoffish about the whole thing.

It's one thing if her dad is paying for it, and he can afford it, but if a mid-20 something couple doesn't even have a house yet, why go into so much debt over a party? It doesn't take money or platters of dainty food to enjoy the company of others, you know.

What's the cost of the ring up to now? 2 months' paychecks?

[burgundy]

The key is to live with them first. No way you get married after that.

[Cheebs]

That page may contain facts, but it is very hard to separate the facts from the exagerations and generalizations. The author's message would benefit greatly if the "anti-women" tone of the whole article was taken down about 10 notches.

Yeah, I'll agree that it's stupid to throw yourself into a deep pit of debt with an expensive ring/ceremony/honeymoon right at the begining of your adult life. But that message gets lost while the reader winces over the author's horrible bitterness towards all things female.

[torgo]

Yeah, I'll agree that it's stupid to throw yourself into a deep pit of debt with an expensive ring/ceremony/honeymoon right at the begining of your adult life.

Except the woman has been dreaming of a huge, beautiful wedding ever since she was 9 years old. Women aren't exactly known for their practicality, and most men are at least a little bit whipped, so...