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  1. So, the word is Iron Man 2 wasn't as good because of Marvel Studio's interference.

    http://www.cinemablend.com/new/How-I...vel-20003.html

    When word came down that Marvel was planning an Avengers movie which would bring all of their superhero franchises together in one place, a lot of people assumed Jon Favreau would be the top contender for the film’s directing job. After all, he started the modern Marvel craze with Iron Man and Favreau has sort of become the godfather of everything that happens in the Marvel movie universe. But somehow, he was never even considered and it wasn’t long before Favs moved on to Cowboys & Aliens. We never really knew why Favs wasn’t a contender for the Avengers job, at least until now.

    According to one of our most reliable sources (this is the same source which first broke the news that Black Widowwould be in Iron Man 2 and has given us numerous other confirmed scoops over the years) Favreau really wanted to direct The Avengers but Marvel didn’t want to pay for him. Their negotiations with Favreau to secure him as the director of Iron Man 2 were difficult and Favreau worked out a deal that got him paid more money. Marvel wasn’t willing to pay that kind of money again when it came time for The Avengers, and so even though Favs wanted to direct their superhero team-up movie, they didn’t want him. Instead Marvel has made it a point to seek out cheaper talent to direct all of their subsequent movies. Joss Whedon was hired to direct The Avengers and while he’s a mega-talented director he’s also a much cheaper hire than someone like Favreau.

    It makes sense. If you’re making a movie like The Avengers, then to do it right you’ll end up spending a ton of money on special effects and talent. You have to cut costs somewhere and if you can do it while at the same time hiring incredibly talented people (like Whedon) then so much the better. But that doesn’t explain what happened to Iron Man 2.

    If you’ve seen Iron Man 2 then you noticed that it wasn’t quite the movie we’d all hoped for. Actually it wasn’t very good. Part of the problem was the movie seemed wrapped around an odd, Avengers-focused, subplot which never really fit into the story. Jon Favreau may not have liked it any more than you or I do.

    Our source says Iron Man 2 wasn’t the movie Jon Favreau wanted to make. Marvel interfered heavily with his work on the movie and turned the project into an infomercial for The Avengers. Favreau felt the movie was rushed into production (and if you followed the development process you know it was) and they pushed him into making it without a fully realized script. Iron Man 2 wasn’t the movie he wanted to make and because of that, if there’s an Iron Man 3, there’s every reason to think he won’t be back. Marvel doesn’t want to pay him and Favreau may not want to deal with more Marvel interference.

    Favreau wasn’t the only one unhappy with Iron Man 2. Robert Downey Jr. saw those same problems and according to our source, “While he's locked for Iron Man 3, chances are, that will be his last movie.” In the meantime, Downey will get (and probably deserves) top billing in The Avengers.

    While our source here is a proven commodity, as always with anything reported on the internet without official sanction, consider the above all rumor. Besides, there’s still plenty of time for Favreau and Marvel repair their relationship. Hopefully, before they start planning Iron Man 3, Marvel will have gotten around to playing kiss and make up with its Iron Man team.

  2. So the Hulk will be motion captured.

    Quote Originally Posted by NYmag.com and Latino Review
    Well, this is a bit of interesting news. Unfortunately I can't get too into it because I'm leaving in a bit to go to Universal Studios' Eyegore Awards show.

    Here's what Mark Ruffalo revealed about playing Bruce Banner and the Hulk to the NY Mag:

    "I'm really excited. No one's ever played the Hulk exactly, they've always done CGI," he told us at last night's Launch of Farmhearts at Pure Yoga. "They're going to do the Avatar stop-action, stop-motion capture. So I'll actually play the Hulk. That'll be fun." But he's nearly as excited about playing Banner: "I really love the first TV version of it, the Bill Bixby one," Ruffalo told us. "I'm gonna shoot for that a little bit. He was an everyman in it. He's always on the run and trying to find love. It's really a sympathetic character, before he turns into the Hulk and fucks everything up."

    Click HERE to read the rest.

    A motion capture Hulk? I thought the CGI Hulk from the last movie actually looked really good. Why go with motion capture?

    What do you guys think? Good or bad they're going motion capture for The Hulk?
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  3. Lookin' forward to a trainwreck, ho ho ho.
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  4. So the 300 - 400 lb Hulk will look like he weighs 150, if we're lucky.
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  5. bah. mo cap him, scale up the footage and then slow it down a bit to make it look more natural

  6. Wait, that's all it takes according to some guy on the internet with no experience at all with art, weight, or production?

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  7. Quote Originally Posted by Shinobi128 View Post
    So, the word is Iron Man 2 wasn't as good because of Marvel Studio's interference.

    http://www.cinemablend.com/new/How-I...vel-20003.html

    This kinda goes along to what Shinobi posted.

    Quote Originally Posted by LatinoReview
    Fans of Iron Man 2 were a tad confused when the trailer always showed Tony jumping from an airplane after saying "You complete me." to Pepper. Why were they confused? Because that opening wasn't in the finished version of the film. For some reason Favreau cut it, but the alternate opening is on the DVD and has now appeared online.

    I like this version better than the one they went with, but I now see why they cut it out.

    This version plays up on Tony's alcoholism, a direction I think the movie planned on going in (I know movies are shot out of sequence, thank you.) but with rewrites happening almost daily it was clear they chose to abandon the "Demon in a Bottle" storyline (I do think Favreau was going to go with it at one point. He had to have, don't you think?) and went with a watered down version instead. Why they did this I have no idea. If we as kids could handle the storyline in the comics, I think kids today could have handled the more mature subject matter in the movie.

    Personally I think they blew it by not simplifying the story to where Tony became an alcoholic and Rhodes had to step in using Tony's War Machine prototype armor. Once Tony sobers up, Rhodes won't relinquish control of the suit and the two duke it out while Justin Hammer brings in Crimson Dynamo to finish them both off. Something along those lines, but you know what I'm getting at. I could write about this for forever but I'm probably boring you already.

    Anyway, that's not how things ended up and the movie was a mess, going in several different directions with no real identity. Obviously this alternate opening wasn't going to work.


    I would have liked this version better.
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  8. Disney buys Avengers, Iron Man 3 distribution rights from Paramount; Paramount still distributing Cap, Thor

    Fuck. I hate when the individual parts of a beloved franchise are controlled by different studios. Iron Man now joins Evil Dead and... uh... others I can't think of off the top of my head in the illustrious ranks of movie series that you'll never be able to buy in a nice complete boxed-set with tons of bells and whistles. (And it sounds like the same will be true of Cap and Thor if and when they get sequels.)
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  9. Why do you need a box set? I'm betting you already own those movies...
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  10. Sure, but I still like upgrading to the nicest version when I can find a good deal. What kind of nerd doesn't love shelf candy?

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