Toddler Ass-banged by Pit Bull

**catfish** · 16 Jul 2007, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by johnk_

I used to believe otherwise... that the way you raise a dog determines its behavior and whether it's a risk or not..

but I've recently realized that it's just not the way it is.. Pit bulls are a breed that was bred specifically for violence. Even one raised in the most caring, gentle environment has the potential to dangerously flip out.

it makes me sad because they're cute dogs, and usually very friendly and playful.

exactly...its not that i dont like them, but i'm pretty sure those are the actual facts-that them and huskies exclusivley are very prone to do that

**Nick** · 16 Jul 2007, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by Josh

character limit these days huh? TYPE TYPE TYPE

Fixed.

**kedawa** · 16 Jul 2007, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by catfish

exactly...its not that i dont like them, but i'm pretty sure those are the actual facts-that them and huskies exclusivley are very prone to do that

The problem isn't just in those breeds, it's just more prevalent in them. It's much less likely to get a crazy golden retriever than it is to get a crazy pit bull, but it does happen.

There are pit bulls that really are safe dogs, but the risk of getting a dangerous one is so high that most people won't take the chance.

**icarusfall** · 16 Jul 2007, 06:54 PM

Most of you people have no idea what you're talking about. I've worked with some of the best trainers in the world and am a dog groomer. You know what breed bites more than any other? Shih-Tzu. The only problem here is that a Shih-Tzu isn't going to have the same effect a Staffordshire has on flesh. It's only media sensationalism. That's all.

**kedawa** · 16 Jul 2007, 07:03 PM

I don't know what it's like elsewhere, but in southern ontario a lot of pit bulls come from puppy mills and are inbred as fuck. Maybe that's the problem, and it has nothing to do with the breed itself, but in any case, pit bulls are disproportionately represented when it comes to dog attacks.

**icarusfall** · 16 Jul 2007, 07:11 PM

Unfortunately most dogs in North America come from puppy mills or very disreputable breeders and it shows in the stock of the dogs. A great example are Shih-Tzus. Most Shih-Tzus you see don't really look anything like how they're supposed to. They have misshapen skulls and bowed front/back legs - not to mention they're being bred much bigger than the standard calls for.

The other problem with bad breeding is in the temperament. When you're breeding dogs for quality you only breed the dogs with the best temperament in regards to the standard; otherwise you get extremely neurotic dogs. Like what happened to Dalmatians after 101 Dalmations. People started breeding them onkly because parents who were too weak to say no would spend $800 on a dog they didn't really want. Then justify it by saying, "Oh, let's not spay/neuter it, we'll breed it and make some money back."

Without going too much into genetics, this is what happens with dogs.

**catfish** · 17 Jul 2007, 02:11 AM

all breeds of all dogs were all created by humans. they were all bred for a certain purpose. pit bulls were bred to not feel pain, and to kill. mostly other dogs. there is nothing you can do to take it out of them. just like if you take a herding dog as a puppy, and he has never even seen a sheep before, if you put him in front of a sheep, he will herd it.

**icarusfall** · 17 Jul 2007, 12:05 PM

That would be true if they were still being bred this way. They haven't been bred like that for hundreds of years. A Staffordshire was created in less than that time and is not the same dog it was bred to be ages ago. Genetics don't support you.

Also: they were bred for bull baiting, hence the name (pit bull).