Official Ron Paul for President 2008 Thread

[Thief Silver]

Yeah too bad there's no way the country itself is smart enough to elect him.

[Spent]

these videos are further proof of his awesomeness, "you're a little overweight!"

[sphere79]

Back! Back to Stormfront.org with you!

Fuck! Fuck, FUCK YOU!

Ron Paul waffles on immigration because he's going for the Republican base

Well gee golly, he IS running on the Republican ticket!

but in reality most libertarians believe in open borders.

Really, "most"? Have you talked to all of them personally, because the Libertarian Parties official website seems contradict some of your points.

"A completely open border allows foreign criminals, carriers of communicable diseases, terrorists and other potential threats to enter the country unchecked."

"The legitimate function and obligation of government to protect the lives, rights and property of its citizens, requires awareness of and control over the entry into our country of foreign nationals who pose a threat to security, health or property."

- Those crazy Libertarians need to go back to Stormfront!!!!!

They would say American labor has been overvalued and can't stand up to the competition.

If "competition" is children working 14 hour days and taking home $1.50 to make $150 sneakers than they can keep that "competition". Yea I know - the "market" (i.e. USA buys them) but it's not like we're getting the whole story from the same media infrastructure that tries to attack / hide someone like Ron Paul. It's the same old shit about the corporate "chosen" candidates, what did Hillary say about Obama today? Meanwhile Ron Paul (someone who we're told "cannot win" and that the neo-cons say would make us vulnerable to attack) received more donations from people serving in the US military than ANY OTHER candidate. That's not newsworthy because he "can't win".

We're always going to have moronic nativists with us, crying about one minority coming in or another; Irish-Catholics, Asians, Italians, Mexicans, etc.

It's really VERY simple. We have laws. People need to follow them. If they don't, there should be consequences. My ancestors came on a boat too. They did it LEGALLY. They integrated, they became AMERICANS - not hyphenated Americans. They spoke the language perfectly inside one generation - and while they taught the next generation to honor their heritage, they also taught them to speak English first. With the situations in certain parts of America and similarly Britain - this is not happening. The end result will be balkanization, and be negative for said country, as history shows it always has been.

But eventually those bigots will die out and the migrant population will stabilize and acclimate and become just another part of the American landscape.

Keep telling yourself that, even as Aztlan is growing and the Mexicans continue "take back" land that they believe is somehow theirs. Sad thing is, it's not really about "land" (there's plenty of land south of the border) - it's about wanting the things that someone else (those Americans they hate so much) built on that land. We're supposed to let anyone come over undocumented, we're supposed to let an uber-corrupt country like Mexico tell us how to run our borders, meanwhile THEY have a strict immigration policy.

And fuck "globalization". We don't need the standard of living lowered more and more in this country so we can all "compete" with 12 cent an hour chinese slave labor.

[g0zen]

Well gee golly, he IS running on the Republican ticket!

Yes, that's what I said. LOL, have you been taking steroids to butch up your skinhead image? You're raging over something that wasn't even a contention.

Really, "most"? Have you talked to all of them personally, because the Libertarian Parties official website seems contradict some of your points.

"A completely open border allows foreign criminals, carriers of communicable diseases, terrorists and other potential threats to enter the country unchecked."

I don't know where you're getting that, but here is the LP's official website's stance on the issue, I'll quote the relevant section;

The Libertarian Party has long recognized the importance of allowing free and open immigration, understanding that this leads to a growing and more prosperous America. We condemn the xenophobic immigrant bashing that would build a wall around the United States.

If "competition" is children working 14 hour days and taking home $1.50 to make $150 sneakers than they can keep that "competition". Yea I know - the "market" (i.e. USA buys them) but it's not like we're getting the whole story from the same media infrastructure that tries to attack / hide someone like Ron Paul.

Oh god, here comes the tinfoil hat nonsense. Also, LAWL at you pretending to care about the welfare and worker's rights of children in foreign countries.

Meanwhile Ron Paul (someone who we're told "cannot win" and that the neo-cons say would make us vulnerable to attack) received more donations from people serving in the US military than ANY OTHER candidate. That's not newsworthy because he "can't win".

Source?

They spoke the language perfectly inside one generation - and while they taught the next generation to honor their heritage, they also taught them to speak English first. With the situations in certain parts of America and similarly Britain - this is not happening. The end result will be balkanization, and be negative for said country, as history shows it always has been.

And here it comes, the doom and gloom preaching by white supremacists about how their 'heritage' will be lost because the browns and blacks are coming in. I already pointed out how mass immigration movements in the US have happened numerous times in the past, and every time they do manage to adapt and become part of the American experience.

Keep telling yourself that, even as Aztlan is growing and the Mexicans continue "take back" land that they believe is somehow theirs. Sad thing is, it's not really about "land" (there's plenty of land south of the border) - it's about wanting the things that someone else (those Americans they hate so much) built on that land. We're supposed to let anyone come over undocumented, we're supposed to let an uber-corrupt country like Mexico tell us how to run our borders, meanwhile THEY have a strict immigration policy.

Do the rest of you see what I'm talking about? It's conspiracy mongering garbage.

[sphere79]

Yes, that's what I said. LOL, have you been taking steroids to butch up your skinhead image? You're raging over something that wasn't even a contention.

Yea, look at me RAGE. And if I wanted National Socialism I'd be supporting Hillary.....

I don't know where you're getting that, but here is the LP's official website's stance on the issue

That's an editorial from the same website I quoted. Except I quoted relevant parts from their official platform found here. My point was even they know "open borders" is a bad idea.

Also, LAWL at you pretending to care about the welfare and worker's rights of children in foreign countries.

I actually DO fucking care, and I put my money where my mouth is. I've got boots made in Texas, jeans made in Tennessee, shirts from American Apparel in California, and a leather jacket from West Virginia, etc. Yes, I have alot of foreign made (probably by kids in sweatshops) crap too - but when I can I support American workers.

The welfare and rights of those workers was also a key point in our group fighting off the local Super Wal-Mart, and I was on public access about a half-dozen times quoting statistics on the very subject - so I guess I'm "pretending" pretty amazingly.

Source?

The source is publicly available statistics.

And here it comes, the doom and gloom preaching by white supremacists about how their 'heritage' will be lost because the browns and blacks are coming in.

YES - that's EXACTLY what I said. You can make this a white vs brown and black thing all you want, but black people are the first affected by illegal immigration and they're not all holding hands with the illegals like you might think. Why do you think they were applauding Tom Tancredo at an NAACP-organized forum?

I already pointed out how mass immigration movements in the US have happened numerous times in the past, and every time they do manage to adapt and become part of the American experience.

It was much easier when immigration was better controlled. We honestly have NO IDEA who is in this country, and they are coming at such a rate that it's making integration difficult.

Do the rest of you see what I'm talking about? It's conspiracy mongering garbage.

I could post link after link, photo after photo of these La Raza, Aztlan folks and their intentions which ARE VERY CLEAR. They are not about becoming part of anything, in fact many of them expunge claims of superiority and dominance yet I'm labeled by you because I'm not a bitch who takes shit lying down like most Americans. La Raza means "THE RACE" for chrisakes. I'm labeled for not having YOUR opinions. And of course the "rest of you" aren't going to side with me when you keep labeling me as something we're all supposed to find ultimately disgusting.

In fact, I've been through these arguments a million times on this board, and I'm not going to do it again in the Ron Paul thread - as it has nothing to do with Ron Paul.

I will however, be making a 20x30 foot Ron Paul banner (not to mention other signs) this Saturday that will adorn a hot air balloon.

I will be calling Iowans tonight and tomorrow to let them know about Ron Paul and the straw poll this Saturday.

I will be driving to NH to meet the man, and hopefully add a photo to my "political" collection which currently includes myself with Ralph Nader and one with Jello Biafra.

And that IS right on fucking topic!

[Tommy Tallarico]

Stop ruining my thread with verbose online slapfights. This thread is about peace and awesome leaders, which is why it is about Ron Paul and made by me, and why neither of you should post in it.

Tommy Tallarico

[g0zen]

I've talked about Ron Paul, his positions, and his ideology throughout this thread.

EDIT: In fact I've been one of his biggest advocates here.

[sphere79]

Stop ruining my thread with verbose online slapfights. This thread is about peace and awesome leaders, which is why it is about Ron Paul and made by me, and why neither of you should post in it.

When you start a Ron Paul Meetup group and raise $500 in a week and a half for the cause you let me know. Have you switched affiliation from Green Party to fucking REPUBLICAN for the man? I am the grassroots people spreading the word, of course I should post in this thread.

[Cowutopia]

you scare people. Please stop spreading the word.

[Tommy Tallarico]

When you start a Ron Paul Meetup group and raise $500 in a week and a half for the cause you let me know.

Tommy Tallarico did that three months ago in less than an hour.

My Ron Paul support penis is at least a foot longer than yours.

Tommy Tallarico