JJ Abrams' Star Trek

[Error]

I don't get why people are having such a tough with the idea that the whole thing is an alternate reality. Spock Prime didn't come back in time from the same future we see in Star Trek TNG; he's just thematically similar. The stardates, people! That's your first big clue!

Say what?

[Space Pirate Roberts]

Uh... yes, Spock Prime is the same Spock from TNG. But by going back in time, he and Nero established a second timeline from which they cannot return. As far as the original timeline is concerned, they didn't go back in time at all, they just ceased to exist. Even if Spock Prime DID try to go back in time AGAIN to stop Nero from blowing up Vulcan, all he'd accomplish is the splitting-off of YET ANOTHER alternate timeline, not a return to the original. This is how Abrams has chosen to answer the paradox dilemma of time travel, never mind that previous iterations of Trek followed different rules more in line with Back To the Future. (Personally I prefer Lost's "whatever happened, happened" approach to time travel [you can't change the past, if you try, you'll not only fail, but probably even find out that your meddling is what caused the events you're trying to avert], but that obviously wouldn't achieve the continuity reset that was the whole purpose of this movie.)

[Error]

That's not what TODE is saying though. He's saying Spock Prime came from the alternate timeline. Not from the real one.

[TODE]

Nimoy admitted as much in an interview for Star Trek Magazine, for what that's worth.

And if Spock Prime and Nero had come from the Real Star Trek Universe, their ships' onboard computers would have had stardates looking like 5****.** and not year.day

[Advocate]

[TODE]

*rocks the electric violin*

[Error]

If they displayed the date in standard time its because JJ Abrams wanted it that way, not because it came from a different timeline.

"What's this stardate shit? What fucking nerd thought that crap up. And you wonder why you fucks are calling me in to save your pathetic franchise. Give me dates people. A to the fucking D. Christianity rules the world 200 years from now too you know" is what I picture him saying.

[TODE]

The dates weren't just displayed... either way, since everything in the movie is different than it was in TOS, and TNG-and-up have always acknowledged Kirk's era as looking like it did in TOS (as seen in TNG's Scotty ep and DS9's Tribble ep), then I think we can conclude that everything should be considered different and it doesn't really matter because everything's awesome either way.

[Space Pirate Roberts]

From AICN:

Bryan Fuller has again exited “Heroes.”

"Development was really starting to heat up, And it appears like I may be writing multiple pilots for NBC so that wasn't leaving a ton of room for 'Heroes,' unfortunately," the star writer-producer tells AICN exclusively. "We crafted some really great arcs for the season that I'm excited to see come to fruition. I love that cast dearly and am sad to go, but the plate -- she was over-flowing."

Fuller, of course, is the "Dead Like Me"/"Wonderfalls"/"Pushing Daisies" creator who wrote the best "Heroes" episodes, including "Company Man" and "Cold Snap." He left "Heroes" near the end of its first season to create "Daisies," then returned to "Heroes" near the end of last season.

Fuller is under contract with "Heroes" producer NBC Universal for another year and a half, and has been preparing new series pitches for the media giant since he left Warner Bros.' "Daisies." He's also expressed an ambition to eventually create, or help create, a new Paramount TV series set in J.J. Abrams' new "Star Trek" universe.

Guy behind good parts of Heroes + return of Trek to TV + Berman/Bragga kept far away on penalty of death =

[Mr-K]

How do you make a TV series out of a $150 million movie?