Official PlayStation 3 Thread 3: Rise of the Machines

[Daitokuji]

Something else I've noticed I don't quite understand. My ps3 is set to 1080p. Games that have progressive scan settings when I change them to progressive scan it changes the output to 480p, but the games look better than at 1080p... The colors seem more vibrant... I don't get it

[B-Ri]

Something else I've noticed I don't quite understand. My ps3 is set to 1080p. Games that have progressive scan settings when I change them to progressive scan it changes the output to 480p, but the games look better than at 1080p... I don't get it.

PS3 automatically deinterlaces and either stretches or doesnt stretch or sets the image to widescreen. Dont mess with the display settings in game, XMB does it all to your preferences. The only thing you should really be doing in-game is audio, cause PS2 games will auto to stereo, and if you got a system and you want PLII you need to go through the ingame settings.

[mollipen]

Play magazine really does give any game with any sort of hype a 9 or a 10, regardless of actual quality. Of course there are a few that actually deserve those scores (i.e. Gears, which definitely didn't deserve a 10, but a 9), the majority of those games that are rated highly are typically average games.

It'd be nice if you'd only speak about things you actually know about.

[Brand X]

I'd like to see you prove me wrong.

edit: After going through Play's review archive, I'm partially wrong. Dave Halverson gives everything 9 and above. Hell, he gave Motorstorm a 10. The rest of the reviewers there, after clicking through a good number of reviews, rate on a scale of 7-10. With the majority of games, even if they really aren't deserving of an 8 or above, get that score.

[mollipen]

I'd like to see you prove me wrong.

You want proof that you're wrong? I work for Play. I've never given a score to a game because of "hype."

There... you're wrong.

[Brand X]

Even if you work for play, the reviews speak for themselves. You guys severely overrate a large number of games and hand out high scores to plenty of games that do not deserve them. Whether or not you are one of those reviewers it doesn't matter, but it does happen, and there is really no denying it.

Motorstorm, Okami, FFXII, and Odin Sphere getting 10's are just a few examples. All great games and at the top of their respective class, but they are by no means perfect, nor deserving of getting rated a 10.

[mollipen]

Even if you work for play, the reviews speak for themselves. You guys severely overrate a large number of games and hand out high scores to plenty of games that do not deserve them. Whether or not you are one of those reviewers it doesn't matter, but it does happen, and there is really no denying it.

No, you're right. I work at Play, I deal with the staffers, and I've personally known five of said staff members (Dave, Nick, Casey, Mike, Michael) for over ten years now. I've talked to those staffers, and others, directly about their opinions on particular games, or about various reviews that they've done.

There's no way I could possibly know more about this particular topic than you.

[Brand X]

Dealing with the people and knowing with the people you work with != review scores they hand out. The numbers speak for themselves, and it doesn't matter how personally you know the people, because that isn't how people judge the reviews. The general public (including myself) judges the reviews based on the scores that are given to the games and not on "how personally shidoshi knows the people he works with".

[soundwave]

Play does have a reputation for overrating or over-hyping some games. I remember Voodoo Vince for teh zboz got a 10. Lair got a 9 while other sources aren't so keen on the game and there are numerous examples in the past. I know personally I don't weigh Play magazines reviews too heavily but that stems from my perception of Halverson's shadiness and his kowtowing to moneyhats.

[mollipen]

You guys severely overrate a large number of games and hand out high scores to plenty of games that do not deserve them.

Okay.. so which games did I over-rate? Let's see a list. Because, I mean, you're lumping up every staff member of Play as a whole here, so let's see what you've got on me.

Off the top of my head, there's one game where I thought later it probably didn't deserve the score that I gave it: Tokobot. Most of the rest of the reviews I've done for Play, however, I'd stand behind 100%.

The problem here, however, is this:

Motorstorm, Okami, FFXII, and Odin Sphere getting 10's are just a few examples. All great games and at the top of their respective class, but they are by no means perfect, nor deserving of getting rated a 10.

See, this isn't an argument about Play's scores being right or wrong: it's an argument that Play's scores don't agree with YOU. YOU don't think those games deserved the scores that they got; but, since they did get those scores, obviously somebody did.

And the problem I have is that you're stating (as if it's fact) that Play's staff members give a particular score because of the hype behind a game, and I'm telling you that that is not true. You can think a particular staff member's taste in games is shit - I'm totally cool with that. But from every bit of personal experience that I have with Play's staff members, they give the scores they give because they honestly love (or greatly like, or hate, or whatever) those games.

You're saying that knowing a person personally doesn't mean anything, yet you're stilling here making a judgement call about people you know nothing about, and simply cannot realistically make without knowing the person personally.