Official PlayStation 3 Thread 3: Rise of the Machines

[Yoshi]

That comment about that comment about "massive damage" needing a new post needing a new post needed a new post.

[Compass]

Well that didn't need to be said.

[magnifiedplaid]

I was feelin a little suicidal today, so I decided to pick up a copy of Lair at full retail price I'll give some brief impressions after a play it for a bit...

[Melf]

Yea give or take a hundred years.

It's taken only about a decade for Japan to be outdone in just about every other genre, so I doubt we'll have wait that long.

Now, I'm not saying this balance couldn't shift but I highly doubt it's going to happen anytime soon if it does. Westerners seem more concerned with other genres (and neither of these seems to ever tear up sales charts&#185 so we'll probably just continue to get little stuff here and there. If these became big business, then sure, but I'm thinking we peaked with Mortal Kombat and Primal Rage for still a long time to come.

Shmups and fighters are a bit trickier, I'd wager. The former is no longer a big seller in the U.S., and the latter has never been done right by westerners since... forever (flashbacks to Eternal Champions, Way of the Warrior, Kasumi Ninja, Criticom, etc). Shmups and fighters haven't really evolved at all either, and the reason western devs have concentrated on other genres is because these two have been stagnant forever. Compare '90s RPGs to games like Oblivion, and you can see the evolution. Then go look at JRPGs from the '80s and '90s and compare them to DQ and games like Blue Dragon. Japan seems to be stuck in a time bubble, playing the same types of games over and over.

To be fair, Japan has made some progress in genres like action games, where Ninja Gaiden is a definite evolution; however, the big selling genres are more and more coming from western developers, and Japan's importance is diminishing. Look at the major titles for this holiday season: Halo 3: western, Assassin's Creed: western, Mass Effect: western, BioShock: western, Ratchet & Clank PS3: western, Guitar Hero 3: western, Skate: western....etc. Japan is definitely falling behind overall.

[MechDeus]

Compare '90s RPGs to games like Oblivion, and you can see the evolution. Then go look at JRPGs from the '80s and '90s and compare them to DQ and games like Blue Dragon. Japan seems to be stuck in a time bubble, playing the same types of games over and over.

I don't think this comparison works very well. If you look at 90's WRPGs you get Daggerfall, Baldur's Gate, a few Wizardry titles, Ultimas, etc. and what we have today are more evolved versions of that same kind of playstyle. By the same token, while Japan goes apeshit these days over old-school, by-the-numbers affairs like DQVIII they're also giving us games like Persona 3 and FFXII which absolutely stomp all over most older JRPGs. In terms of the way the games play both sides of the ocean have evolved just as much. The primary difference here is that we were more concerned with having freedom while they were more concerned with telling a story, and that same distinction remains today.

Switching gears, I played the Folklore demo today and really liked it. Even the motion control didn't seem out of place for once, and overall it kinda felt like Pokemon only cool. My only real complaint is that it really needs some voice acting, with high production values everywhere else the total lack of characters speaking made it feel really empty. Other than it seems like the PS3 actually has a good game coming for it.

[Chux]

Hay guys. My TV doesn't do 720p, but my computer monitor does(And 1080i as far as I know). It has DVI and VGA connections.

How can I play my shit on my computer monitor.

[Despair]

Played Folklore demo as well, and loved it. Definately one of more anticipated games for ps3 for me next month. As Mech said, it could definitely use voice overs, and I still bit shaky on all motion control action thing, but visuals and style of it just perfect.

[B-Ri]

Hay guys. My TV doesn't do 720p, but my computer monitor does(And 1080i as far as I know). It has DVI and VGA connections.

How can I play my shit on my computer monitor.

make sure your monitor has HDCP, and then get an HDMI to DVI cable, and use either the composite or optical for sound.

[Chux]

make sure your monitor has HDCP, and then get an HDMI to DVI cable, and use either the composite or optical for sound.

Cool, got one from Monoprice for $8 shipped.

[B-Ri]

Cool, got one from Monoprice for $8 shipped.

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also cap i think i go tto cancel on warhawk again, tuesday maybe, i am just wayyyyy busy and i was going to have free time tonight but my sister asked me to take her to the circus, and tonights the last night.