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Thread: Official NFL 2008 Post Season Thread

  1. #1171
    Quote Originally Posted by Error View Post
    Oh please. The worst scandal since the Black Sox?? Because they supposedly taped their opponent? If they did..which lets face it they probably did, so what. Is it cheating? I suppose, but really, the Black Sox? I'd say they are the exact opposite of the Black Sox. They aren't taking money to lose. They are doing everything in their power to win.
    If true, they were breaking the rules to affect the outcome of a championship. It's the exact same thing. You don't think everyone involved profited more from winning than they would have from tossing it? How many free agents go to NE for less money with no history of winning? Who the fuck would Tom Brady be if he didn't win the Super Bowl Bledsoe handed him?

  2. From pft

    ESPN's Sal Paolantonio reports that, if it turns out that former Patriots employee Matt Walsh has in possession video of the Rams' final walk-through practice from Super Bowl XXXVI, New England head coach Bill Belichick will be suspended.

    For a year.

  3. #1173
    Not enough. That should be a lifetime suspension, including the Hall of Fame, and the team should be ineligible for the playoffs for multiple years. We're talking about the absolute worst thing possible for the league and its $7 billion TV contract.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Yoshi View Post
    If true, they were breaking the rules to affect the outcome of a championship. It's the exact same thing. You don't think everyone involved profited more from winning than they would have from tossing it? How many free agents go to NE for less money with no history of winning? Who the fuck would Tom Brady be if he didn't win the Super Bowl Bledsoe handed him?
    Wait, Bledsoe wins what, 2 games that year and he handed Brady a Superbowl? If this report is true then its Belichek who handed it to him. And who would he be? He'd probably be the guy with 2 rings instead of 3.

    Now then, of course everyone involved made money. But they didn't try to lose. I feel there is a huge distinction between cheating to win and being paid to lose when you should win. One is cheating and the other is destroying the integrity of the game. Yes cheating is bad, but honestly, the Black Sox nearly destroyed the sport of Baseball in America. It's that simple.

    If you are going to object to the Patriots cheating this way then every time someone gets caught cheating by taking steroids you should feel the same way, and if at any time a team is caught stealing signs or even watching game tape, then clearly the team has to be fined and banned, they condoned it. And heaven help the team that goes offside and doesn't get caught, clearly they are ruining the integrity of the game. All this is, this whole controversy, is the game being brought into the 21st century, and being forced to deal with technology.

    I'll be honest, I don't find the idea of the Patriots cheating to win to be all that harmful. The entire game is based on cheating in some way or another, people always trying to find an edge. Until that is stomped out, I'm not going to sit and judge the Pats for supposedly doing something that everyone else is probably trying to do themselves.

  5. #1175
    You socialists don't get it to a greater degree than I thought. The NFL, like MLB, has an antitrust exemption that grants all kinds of advantages over every other business. If illegal activities are going on, millions of gambling dollars could have changed hands the wrong direction. The league puts at risk the very basis for its success. There is nothing more important than a level playing field in terms of the rules.
    Last edited by Yoshi; 03 Feb 2008 at 07:32 PM.

  6. Xbox 360 I

    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshi View Post
    Not enough. That should be a lifetime suspension, including the Hall of Fame, and the team should be ineligible for the playoffs for multiple years. We're talking about the absolute worst thing possible for the league and its $7 billion TV contract.
    Agreed.
    2009 TNL Fantasy Football Champion

  7. So now they cheated six years ago? I bet next someone finds a tape of the '86 AFC Championship game, or maybe Tony Eason sat up in the stands and sketched diagrams of their opponent's formations.

    When I see proof, I'll believe it.
    Last edited by Melf; 03 Feb 2008 at 07:51 PM.

  8. Nobody cares about Tony Eason. And besides, the Bears already stole any credibility the '85 Patriots (lawl) had.
    2009 TNL Fantasy Football Champion

  9. No, they just want controversy. The Pats are the new Yankees: the team everyone loves to hate, so all this "scandal" comes out now. If it's true, then they deserve to be screwed totally, but I doubt very much that it is.

  10. "Face-guarding"? Correct me if I'm wrong but that's not a foul in the NFL anymore, right? The call against the G's in the endzone was for pass interference. You can put your hands up all you want now w/o looking back at the ball...you just can't touch the WR. Am I wrong here? (and if I'm not, wtf are Buck and Aikman doing even mentioning
    "face-guarding"?)
    2009 TNL Fantasy Football Champion

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