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Thread: Election Thread 2008 MAKE SURE YOU VOTE

  1. As soon as I saw Anderson Cooper interviewing Will i am's "hologram" I changed the channel and never changed it back.

  2. I wonder if he started blowing the hologram after you changed the channel?

  3. Quote Originally Posted by Mr-K View Post
    As soon as I saw Anderson Cooper interviewing Will i am's "hologram" I changed the channel and never changed it back.
    It was the dance that put me off. AC looked like he wanted to kill himself.

  4. Squall, this woman added nothing to McCain's ticket and in fact was the biggest blow to it. She wasn't a serious choice, but one borne of cynicism and headline grabbing potiental.

    I'm probably the biggest feminist on this board and this woman was an insult, she was picked because she was photogenic and was reasoned she would pick up the hilary voters who wanted to see a woman, any woman in the white house. Equality is about being able to do a job because you're qualified to do it regardless of background/gender.

    Hilary was qualified because she is smart enough and politicially savvy enough to get the votes and to craft legislation. She made that aparent when she pushed for healthcare reform back in the 90's. That was her thing, she is a senator in a fairly signifigant state. She has been tested politicially many times and finally had lost to Obama, whom many saw as a rising star in the democrat party.

    Bush for all his faults did not offend his party's base on a rapid fire basis. He had experts from his father's era to appease the foreign policy hawks. The man is charismatic and he knows usually when to shut up. He spoke the language of politicial conservativism well and wove the god thing into it in a way that inspired people to think god and government could work. He brought his Texas educational reforms to the table (before the the problems were revealed in 2003) brought his family's money to the table.

    Palin brought none of this, she came with a scandal (troopergate) kept herself embroiled in it (the report her campgain released didn't help) and continued the behavior and abuses that landed her in the scandal in the first place (150k spending spree). While her cutsy antics many have won her some support, the fact that she was blazingly stupid on her own party's foreign policy probably turned off anyone who was won over by McCain's foreign policy experience. She turned McCain's "mavrick" tag into a running gag and while her religious stances were right, she didn't inspire anyone with them like Bush did and infact scared a few people off with how scary she was at times (excorism on youtube?). She did not craft any signifigant legislation, nor have any insider politicial experience that would have brought in the donors.

    I think McCain's biggest mistake was becoming a party insider for the presidential run. Everyone laments the fact that we rarely see the McCain of 1999, and i think that has some truth to it. He let himself be handled by the handlers and this cost him. On paper he's a far superior candidate than Obama (there I said it), he's been in the lead on several major legislative reforms and is one of the few republicians who can run honestly as a reformer and could cast himself as the answer to the Corporatists that have run politics in America since Reagan. Unlike Obama he's not constantly embroiled in scandel (rezco, ayers, wright) but he also tried to showboat in fairly obvious ways like Palin, the I'm suspending my run to fix this and such. He played a very cynicial run, asuming the worst in human nature, making blindingly obvious moves that almost made him look like a satire of a Republician. While I'm glad he lost to Obama, in my mind he should have won, he was the better canidiate.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by SpoDaddy View Post
    If Obama votes with the fiscal conservatives every chance he gets, Burg and I will jerk each other off.
    That's a mental image I could have gone the rest of my life never having.
    Time for a change

  6. Quote Originally Posted by SpoDaddy View Post
    I wonder if he started blowing the hologram after you changed the channel?
    I actually didn't know he was gay until yesterday.

    Whatever, he likes Pavement, so he's always been golden in my book.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by SpoDaddy View Post
    I wonder if he started blowing the hologram after you changed the channel?
    BECAUSE GAY PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS ABOUT SEX, RIGHT?

  8. Anderson Cooper is gay?

  9. He's Wikipedia Gay.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by squall_vb View Post
    Bang what? I'm still waiting on the names of the alleged journalists.
    the man on the tv on the right there clearly attached his fox news face to this story

    edit - his name is carl cameron, and he reported the story

    sorry there isn't a youtube for you to believe
    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshi View Post
    burgundy is the only conceivable choice.
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    I have an Alcatraz-style all-star butthole.

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