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That's a generational problem, and you only have to look at SAT, College Board, and certification results to see it.Originally Posted by Frogacuda
Frakkin' toasters
She "challenged" the McCain girl in an angry tone with brilliant points like "McCain wants to make your daddy fight in Iraq for 100 years!" while bending over backwards to turn the Obama girl's incoherent thoughts into familiar talking points.
The teacher's not doing anything racist but she's clearly trying to indoctrinate the kids. As for the kids being dumb, what do you expect from 6 year olds? Dissertations on Sunni-Shiite relations?
Last edited by SpoDaddy; 07 Nov 2008 at 08:03 PM.
That's a generational problem, and you only have to look at SAT, College Board, and certification results to see it.
Sell me a poke.
I'd think that going from Governor of New Mexico to Secretary of State would be one hell of a promotion. It might not be the best move in terms of presidential aspirations, but he's the best Democrat for the job, and maybe his sense of duty trumps his sense of self. Then again, maybe not.
Because as a Senator from Alaska, she's guaranteed more national exposure over the next four years (if she plays her cards well) than if she remains the Governor of Alaska. And this isn't a case in which she can just appoint herself.Why would she give up governorship for the senate exactly?
From The London Times:
It's like choosing a stat to level up in a game: does she want to use her experience points on "executive experience" or "national presence?"Under Alaska law, Ms Palin, as Governor, would have to call a special election to choose his successor- and the pundits say she could well decide to stand herself. After all, she already has the wardrobe, and the lipstick. And, as Barack Obama can attest, what better place is there from which to mount a presidential bid than the Senate?
Of course. She catches herself a few times but her bias is showing though. That's hardly criminal though. I've had teachers with all kinds of opinions, and I knew their opinions, and I was perfectly willing to discuss them. If these kids parents were worth shit, they'd have shown their kids how to challenge what they hear.
One of my very earliest memories in my life was when I was two years old, and I saw a toy on TV that I wanted. I told my dad, and he (probably because he didn't feel like buying me shit) broke down to me point by point the ways in which the commercial manipulated its presentation to make the toy seem much cooler than it really was (it didn't actually move by itself, etc). It's a kind of silly thing now, but it was part of a pattern that was a big part of my childhood and adulthood, that I should always challenge the world around me, and explore arguments to the fullest extent I could. It's why I became a philosophy major, and it's part of why I'm a journalist (I know it's just games, but debunking bad info is an important and satisfying part of my job).
My sister, on the other hand, was raised in strictly religious schools, lived entirely in the orthodox Jewish community, with no exposure to outside ideas whatsoever. She has no capacity to process and digest information in a reasonable way. Everything her rabbi says (religious or not) is true, and everything the newspaper or scientists say is a massive conspiracy. She loses every argument she gets into because she simply can't explain anything she believes.
It's a learned skill, and you don't get it by hearing what you want to hear. You get it because sometimes assholes tell you shit that isn't true.
These kids are at least 8 or 9, man. I was more than comfortable arguing with my teachers point for point by then, and I did it quite often.The teacher's not doing anything racist but she's clearly trying to indoctrinate the kids. As for the kids being dumb, what do you expect from 6 year olds? Dissertations on Sunni-Shiite relations?
Last edited by Frogacuda; 07 Nov 2008 at 08:30 PM.
Unless she gets Mysterious Stranger + Bloody Mess, we're okay.
Sell me a poke.
She would counter with "Helicopter Machine Gun +4."
Outworld Neck Hair
Now the excited of the election has subsided, I feel slightly saddened over Prop 8.
Sorry guys. Er, gays.
Sausage King
Fuck prop 8 and everyone who voted for it (along with the folks in Arizona and Florida for their respective hate props). I hope every single one of them has a gay kid who stands up to them.
And then... a series of articles!
Obama's current proposal - http://change.gov/americaserves/
Service Nation - main group pulling for national service"When you choose to serve -- whether it's your nation, your community or simply your neighborhood -- you are connected to that fundamental American ideal that we want life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness not just for ourselves, but for all Americans. That's why it's called the American dream."
The Obama Administration will call on Americans to serve in order to meet the nation’s challenges. President-Elect Obama will expand national service programs like AmeriCorps and Peace Corps and will create a new Classroom Corps to help teachers in underserved schools, as well as a new Health Corps, Clean Energy Corps, and Veterans Corps. Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by setting a goal that all middle school and high school students do 50 hours of community service a year and by developing a plan so that all college students who conduct 100 hours of community service receive a universal and fully refundable tax credit ensuring that the first $4,000 of their college education is completely free. Obama will encourage retiring Americans to serve by improving programs available for individuals over age 55, while at the same time promoting youth programs such as Youth Build and Head Start.
http://www.bethechangeinc.org/servic...bout_us/vision
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_Nation ('Service Nation has been criticized by libertarians, National Review Editor Jonah Goldberg, and the John Birch Society.' , so you know it has to be good!)
Historical Precedent for Mandatory Public Service in the US http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_Public_Service
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ConscriptionThe Civilian Public Service (CPS) provided conscientious objectors in the United States an alternative to military service during World War II. From 1941 to 1947, nearly 12,000 draftees, willing to serve their country in some capacity but unwilling to do any type of military service, performed work of national importance in 152 CPS camps throughout the United States and Puerto Rico. Draftees from the historic peace churches and other faiths worked in areas such as soil conservation, forestry, fire fighting, agriculture, social services and mental health.
The CPS men served without wages and minimal support from the federal government. The cost of maintaining the CPS camps and providing for the needs of the men was the responsibility of their congregations and families. CPS men served longer than regular draftees, not being released until well past the end of the war. Initially skeptical of the program, government agencies learned to appreciate the men's service and requested more workers from the program. CPS made significant contributions to forest fire prevention, erosion and flood control, medical science and reform of the mental health system.
Greece: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_GreeceSome groups, such as libertarians, say that the draft constitutes slavery, since it is mandatory work. Under the Thirteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, slavery or other involuntary servitude is not allowed unless it is part of punishment for a crime. They therefore see the draft as unconstitutional (at least in the U.S.) and immoral. In 1918, the Supreme Court ruled that the World War I draft did not violate the United States Constitution. Arver v. United States, 245 U.S. 366 (1918)). The Court detailed its conclusion that the limited powers of the federal government included conscription. Its only statement on the Thirteenth Amendment issue reads thus:
Finally, as we are unable to conceive upon what theory the exaction by government from the citizen of the performance of his supreme and noble duty of contributing to the defense of the rights and honor of the nation as the result of a war declared by the great representative body of the people can be said to be the imposition of involuntary servitude in violation of the prohibitions of the Thirteenth Amendment, we are constrained to the conclusion that the contention to that effect is refuted by its mere statement.
Germany: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_Germany
Israel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_...egular_service
Russia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forestry_service_(Russia)
Sweden: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Civilian_Service
Last edited by YellerDog; 07 Nov 2008 at 11:06 PM.
Obama's plan doesn't sound mandatory to me.
You sir, are a hideous hermaphroditical character which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman.
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